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What about the reverse scenario, though? Should someone who watches videos about refugee suffering be given anti-refugee video recommendations, lest they be dra

What about the reverse scenario, though? Should someone who watches videos about refugee suffering be given anti-refugee video recommendations, lest they be dragged into a 'left wing ideology'? I don't see how that would be acceptable. Would Holocaust documentaries be 'diversified' with Holocaust denial videos? 'Information bubbles' have existed as long as people have had a choice of newspapers to buy and TV channels to watch. Calling for Youtube to artificially 'balance' videos seems like political interference.

AndrewKemendo 10y ago
There is no such thing as unbiased. So they have top pick how they are going to be biased. My guess is the way that makes the most ad revenue irrespective of ideology.
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cscurmudgeon 10y ago
Ah good old moral relativism.
- force_reboot 10y ago
  Isn't the concept of an "information bubble" already inherently relativistic? sevenless was simply pointing out the relativism cuts both ways.
  - cscurmudgeon 10y ago
    I was just pointing out the obvious.
- tnones 10y ago
  As opposed to planting your flag in the ground that your camp is always right and the outgroup is evil?
  - cscurmudgeon 10y ago
    As opposed to at least trying to think a bit. If you think relativism is fine. Then "As opposed to planting your flag in the ground that your camp is always right and the outgroup is evil?" is also fine. See how silly and immediately self-contradictory relativism is?
    - tnones 10y ago
      "Trying to think a bit" would be on the side of having more information to think about, I'd imagine. Absolute relativism is a strawman you've brought into it, political tribalism is on the other hand a very real thing.
- ycombinatorMan 10y ago
  Ah good ole' sociopathy
mempko 10y ago
While information bubbles have existed as long as people had a choice, at least with a newspaper or TV channel, you have to read and watch a little to understand whether it fits your liking. You have to put some effort in. With recommendation engines, your bubble, without effort, ossifies.
hacker42 10y ago
I think personalized media might bring information bubbles to a whole new level because recommendation systems are more efficient and achieving millions of YouTube views has arguably fewer intellectual hurdles than achieving similar reading rates via print or TV. The information passes though fewer filters (none), e.g. proof readers, team discussions. If that causes an increase of misinformation, then it is on Google to fix it, i.e. to reduce the amount of misinformation at least to pre-YouTube levels.

AndrewKemendo 10y ago

There is no such thing as unbiased. So they have top pick how they are going to be biased. My guess is the way that makes the most ad revenue irrespective of ideology.

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cscurmudgeon 10y ago

Ah good old moral relativism.

force_reboot 10y ago
Isn't the concept of an "information bubble" already inherently relativistic? sevenless was simply pointing out the relativism cuts both ways.
- cscurmudgeon 10y ago
  I was just pointing out the obvious.
tnones 10y ago
As opposed to planting your flag in the ground that your camp is always right and the outgroup is evil?
- cscurmudgeon 10y ago
  As opposed to at least trying to think a bit. If you think relativism is fine. Then "As opposed to planting your flag in the ground that your camp is always right and the outgroup is evil?" is also fine. See how silly and immediately self-contradictory relativism is?
  - tnones 10y ago
    "Trying to think a bit" would be on the side of having more information to think about, I'd imagine. Absolute relativism is a strawman you've brought into it, political tribalism is on the other hand a very real thing.
ycombinatorMan 10y ago
Ah good ole' sociopathy

mempko 10y ago

While information bubbles have existed as long as people had a choice, at least with a newspaper or TV channel, you have to read and watch a little to understand whether it fits your liking. You have to put some effort in. With recommendation engines, your bubble, without effort, ossifies.

hacker42 10y ago

I think personalized media might bring information bubbles to a whole new level because recommendation systems are more efficient and achieving millions of YouTube views has arguably fewer intellectual hurdles than achieving similar reading rates via print or TV. The information passes though fewer filters (none), e.g. proof readers, team discussions. If that causes an increase of misinformation, then it is on Google to fix it, i.e. to reduce the amount of misinformation at least to pre-YouTube levels.