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I think many non-developers would agree that if you can't leave Pandora playing music while you go check your email, you don't have multi-tasking.

by travisp 17y ago

kulkarnic 17y ago
Yeah, you're right. Streams are tricky- music and network too. I think Android solves it using services; would be interesting if Apple comes up with something different (I don't like daemons on my phone personally; but maybe it doesn't matter to most people.)
budu3 17y ago
Sorry I accidentally downvoted you. I agree with you. From a consumer point of view not being able to play music in the background makes the iPhone OS seem incomplete.
- ryanwaggoner 17y ago
  To be clear, you can have music playing in the background, but only from Apple's iPod app, not from 3rd-party apps like Pandora.
  - ryanpetrich 17y ago
    I think it's also possible to play a background stream in Safari.
gojomo 17y ago
Even more significant to me (and some large competing industries): can you receive a VOIP call while using another app? Skype on the iPhone/iPad is great, except for the need to pre-arrange simultaneous launch.
- blasdel 17y ago
  Skype could use push notifications for incoming calls just fine.
  - gojomo 17y ago
    Are they fast and reliable enough? (My understanding was that part of the Urban Airship value proposition was helping to paper-over the unreliability of Apple's push notifications.)
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ajaimk 17y ago
What do you mean non-developers. Developers too.
snprbob86 17y ago
You absolutely do not need multi-tasking (for 3rd party apps) to have background music. You simply need to expose the system media player as a service. I'd actually much prefer that solution. In fact, _most_ backgrounding needs would be better as a sensible system service call. Services could be provided for scheduling jobs, callbacks for location awareness events, etc.
- theBobMcCormick 17y ago
  Which is pretty much the way Android currently does it. http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/fundamentals.html#actlife http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/fundamentals.html#...
tibbon 17y ago
Those non-developers apparently never used DOS or other non multi-tasking OSs.

I think many non-developers would agree that if you can't leave Pandora playing music while you go check your email, you don't have multi-tasking.

by travisp 17y ago

I think many non-developers would agree that if you can't leave Pandora playing music while you go check your email, you don't have multi-tasking.

kulkarnic 17y ago

Yeah, you're right. Streams are tricky- music and network too. I think Android solves it using services; would be interesting if Apple comes up with something different (I don't like daemons on my phone personally; but maybe it doesn't matter to most people.)

budu3 17y ago

Sorry I accidentally downvoted you. I agree with you. From a consumer point of view not being able to play music in the background makes the iPhone OS seem incomplete.

ryanwaggoner 17y ago
To be clear, you can have music playing in the background, but only from Apple's iPod app, not from 3rd-party apps like Pandora.
- ryanpetrich 17y ago
  I think it's also possible to play a background stream in Safari.

gojomo 17y ago

Even more significant to me (and some large competing industries): can you receive a VOIP call while using another app? Skype on the iPhone/iPad is great, except for the need to pre-arrange simultaneous launch.

blasdel 17y ago
Skype could use push notifications for incoming calls just fine.
- gojomo 17y ago
  Are they fast and reliable enough? (My understanding was that part of the Urban Airship value proposition was helping to paper-over the unreliability of Apple's push notifications.)

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ajaimk 17y ago

What do you mean non-developers. Developers too.

snprbob86 17y ago

You absolutely do not need multi-tasking (for 3rd party apps) to have background music. You simply need to expose the system media player as a service. I'd actually much prefer that solution. In fact, _most_ backgrounding needs would be better as a sensible system service call. Services could be provided for scheduling jobs, callbacks for location awareness events, etc.

theBobMcCormick 17y ago
Which is pretty much the way Android currently does it. http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/fundamentals.html#actlife http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/fundamentals.html#...

tibbon 17y ago

Those non-developers apparently never used DOS or other non multi-tasking OSs.