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I voted remain, but completely agree. The Brexit politicians and the nasty Brexit-supporting right wing press in the UK will completely spin the situation as pr

I voted remain, but completely agree. The Brexit politicians and the nasty Brexit-supporting right wing press in the UK will completely spin the situation as proof of how vindictive and mean everyone is for not giving into the UK's demands. It's embarrassing. By the way, Sunderland (in the North East of England), home to Nissan who employ over 6000 people, voted 61% in favour of Brexit. A key reason Nissan expanded operations in the UK was for access to the European market. One has to wonder what people in Sunderland were thinking when they voted. "UK officials reacted with astonishment that Japan had chosen to publish this list of concerns and demands." The fact that UK officials reacted with astonishment shows how so many Brexiters live in a fantasy land where they think Brexit is simply a matter of picking-and-choosing all the rules and regulations that suit them.

barrkel 10y ago
Brexit was a coalition between two completely different groups of people: anti-globalization (whether they know it or not) working class getting marginalized by global shifts in the world economy, the service-orientation of the UK economy, technological change that's reshaping everything everywhere; and pro-globalization free traders who want to be able to undercut EU rules to compete. The interests of these two groups are not aligned. Remain didn't point this out. The reason they weren't able to point it out was because Brexit was sold as a change to the status quo: thus anyone unhappy with the current situation could project whatever they liked as the alternative. Cameron will be tough to beat as the worst PM in the 21st century.
Amezarak 10y ago
> A key reason Nissan expanded operations in the UK was for access to the European market. One has to wonder what people in Sunderland were thinking when they voted. I can't read their minds any more than you can, but maybe they prioritize sovereignty or their idea of the UK over money. It sometimes disturbs me how everything has to be reduced to an economic decision. You need money to live, sure, but there's more to life than money. And besides that, what I'm reading from Krugman and other economists is that the economic consequences being published in the press are dramatically overblown.
- abeevor 10y ago
  When Nissan's workforce are all at the jobcentre, I'm sure they'll agree with you there - I prioritize paying the mortgage

barrkel 10y ago

Brexit was a coalition between two completely different groups of people: anti-globalization (whether they know it or not) working class getting marginalized by global shifts in the world economy, the service-orientation of the UK economy, technological change that's reshaping everything everywhere; and pro-globalization free traders who want to be able to undercut EU rules to compete. The interests of these two groups are not aligned. Remain didn't point this out. The reason they weren't able to point it out was because Brexit was sold as a change to the status quo: thus anyone unhappy with the current situation could project whatever they liked as the alternative. Cameron will be tough to beat as the worst PM in the 21st century.

Amezarak 10y ago

> A key reason Nissan expanded operations in the UK was for access to the European market. One has to wonder what people in Sunderland were thinking when they voted. I can't read their minds any more than you can, but maybe they prioritize sovereignty or their idea of the UK over money. It sometimes disturbs me how everything has to be reduced to an economic decision. You need money to live, sure, but there's more to life than money. And besides that, what I'm reading from Krugman and other economists is that the economic consequences being published in the press are dramatically overblown.

abeevor 10y ago
When Nissan's workforce are all at the jobcentre, I'm sure they'll agree with you there - I prioritize paying the mortgage