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Have you considered the alternative approach of talking to people? A lot less creepy than cyber stalking their tax reports.
by Tharkun 10y ago
Have you considered the alternative approach of talking to people? A lot less creepy than cyber stalking their tax reports.
- HarryHirsch 10y agoI did, here at Tumbleweed State College. The request was met with puzzlement, even indignation. The explanation that secrecy about salaries benefits only management caused even greater outrage, as did pointing out that Tumbleweed State is in an open records state, where salaries of state employees are available online or can be obtained through a FOIA request. At times, people are plain dumb.
- PunchTornado 10y agonot reliable. a lot of my friends were saying they were earning much more than were really making. made me depressed for quit a while. then I got a wonderful job as a data admin for an intelligence institution and for a few days when certain maintenance was due I had unlimited access to everyone's earning in my country. THE LIES! I always have issues negotiating my wage so knowing what other people are earning would imprive my bargaining power.
- lord_harrington 10y agodid you try using your newfound powers for science as well? wage gap numbers are presumably drawn from smaller numbers in countries without public tax returns, actually computing this nationwide would be amazing
- PunchTornado 10y agoI could just execute individual queries and fake them as tests unfortunately. I did it only for friends and public figures. But I think what you are saying is done by other institutions in most countries. I regularly see our national statistics institute releasing studies about gender pay gap etc.
- ajmurmann 10y agoWow, THAT is creepy! Did you get fired?
- PunchTornado 10y agonope, I faked them as tests and anyway there was no pressure about it. it was relaxed, never got a question about it. my point is that for people with poor negotiating skills, like me, knowing how much other people make would have helped me when I was younger.
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- ivoras 10y agoFrom my experience, this is one case where both sides are entrenched and refuse to accept the logic of the other side. Same as the "prices should be stated with taxes included or not" debate. Good luck with that in the US. And with the metric system. And in other countries, driving on the left side of the road. It's culture, not logic.
- henrikschroder 10y ago> prices should be stated with taxes included or not In the US, sales tax differs wildly from state to state, and even from city to city. If you always had to include tax, you couldn't have any TV commercials where a company boasts about their price on something they sell, because it would be impossible to know how high the sales tax would be for every person watching. Places where tax always has to be included usually has a national sales tax or similar, making it possible to advertise prices with tax included.
- ivoras 10y agoI don't disagree with you. I will just notice it somehow isn't a problem in the EU, where taxes differ wildly. Hence, culture.
- gsnedders 10y agoAnd my experience in both Sweden and Norway is most people will just say, without judgement, because after all it's public anyway.