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It's the same in Finland. Tax rates are fairly easy to discover for anyone. And based off that you can get a very good idea of their earnings. In practice I've
by deanclatworthy 10y ago
It's the same in Finland. Tax rates are fairly easy to discover for anyone. And based off that you can get a very good idea of their earnings.
In practice I've never met or spoken to anyone who has gone out their way to do this. It's normally just the tabloids outing the salaries of politicians and celebrities once a year.
- whack 10y agoIf I had access to such information, I would immediately try to figure out how much my colleagues and peers in other groups/companies are making. Knowing how much other people are making for similar job functions, gives you huge negotiating power in managing your career. It's a net win for all workers in society.
- varjag 10y agoYou can't look up other peoples' tax anonymously in Norway though since 2013. Your person of interest gets an automatic notification.
- Tharkun 10y agoHave you considered the alternative approach of talking to people? A lot less creepy than cyber stalking their tax reports.
- HarryHirsch 10y agoI did, here at Tumbleweed State College. The request was met with puzzlement, even indignation. The explanation that secrecy about salaries benefits only management caused even greater outrage, as did pointing out that Tumbleweed State is in an open records state, where salaries of state employees are available online or can be obtained through a FOIA request. At times, people are plain dumb.
- PunchTornado 10y agonot reliable. a lot of my friends were saying they were earning much more than were really making. made me depressed for quit a while. then I got a wonderful job as a data admin for an intelligence institution and for a few days when certain maintenance was due I had unlimited access to everyone's earning in my country. THE LIES! I always have issues negotiating my wage so knowing what other people are earning would imprive my bargaining power.
- lord_harrington 10y agodid you try using your newfound powers for science as well? wage gap numbers are presumably drawn from smaller numbers in countries without public tax returns, actually computing this nationwide would be amazing
- PunchTornado 10y agoI could just execute individual queries and fake them as tests unfortunately. I did it only for friends and public figures. But I think what you are saying is done by other institutions in most countries. I regularly see our national statistics institute releasing studies about gender pay gap etc.
- ajmurmann 10y agoWow, THAT is creepy! Did you get fired?
- PunchTornado 10y ago
- digi_owl 10y agoKeep in mind that at least in Norway it is common that unions do collective bargaining. Never mind that there is no legally mandated minimum salary. All in all it is a two way street. We are in this together, so we all pull together etc.
- nawitus 10y agoOne recruiter said that he'll find out my salary from my tax return when I said I didn't want to disclose it to him. By the way, I think the actual income is public knowledge, not the tax rate.
- deanclatworthy 10y agoPretty bad recruiter by the sounds of it. I've never been asked my current salary. Only expected salary. I expect he/she was calling got bluff.
- bitJericho 10y agoIt's actually one if those signals that the company is no good.
- stevekemp 10y agoI'm a recent newcomer to Finland, and I've never been tempted. But I've loved looking things up in the naming-registry; seeing how many people in the country share my forename/surname has been fascinating.