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That's a pretty bullshit generalisation about Russians. Or as it's. More colloquially known, racist.

EugeneOZ 10y ago
My words are true. Our (russians) colloquial lexicon have tremendous amount of words from thieves jargon. Constitution in Russia have less meaning than thieves' laws. Our users, even programmers/hackers are trying to get free any software - it's kind of snobbery to use paid software in Russia. Maybe it's something wild for you, but it's reality in Russia.
- mlvljr 10y ago
  Stop bullshitting our Western friends, pal :) The days of total piracy are quite long gone. To the degree of someone (not from Russia), living on mobile apps income, telling me, we are among his best-paying clients (apparently, preferring buying an app to watching ads :)).
- nbaksalyar 10y ago
  I don't get your point. Why generalize over 140M people with your assumptions about illegal software usage and "thieve laws" in Russia in the topic about reverse engineering the Skype client? How does it even relate to Russia?
  - EugeneOZ 10y ago
    My reply was to comment about hacking culture. And it's not "assumptions" but experience.
  - semi-extrinsic 10y ago
    Generalizations are useful, because they allow us to efficiently reason about the world. Eschewing them because of the content-free statement that "everyone is unique" leads us to a worse, not better, situation. Of course, this does not mean we should allow blatant racism, but in the real world it is useful to say things that are true but not necessarily nice. Or, if you want, you can stay in Katie-land: https://youtu.be/b47wP_yMCf4 https://youtu.be/b47wP_yMCf4
- babuskov 10y ago
  > it's kind of snobbery to use paid software in Russia Perhaps there's a big percentage of people who feel the same, but there are also many people who pay for software: http://www.pcgamer.com/gabe-newell-on-piracy-and-steams-success-in-russia/ http://www.pcgamer.com/gabe-newell-on-piracy-and-steams-succ...
  - EugeneOZ 10y ago
    I'm not saying it's good, of course, I regret about such level of evolution. I use paid licenses :)
mac01021 10y ago
"Russian", is not a race. We should find another word for this kind of prejudice.
- Jach 10y ago
  There's the old and not as often used "stereotype". But it doesn't have the emotional impact like racist does, so... Anything that doesn't hit squarely at the pathos is right out.
  - mac01021 10y ago
    Yeah. I guess I was saying that we, the Anglophone world, need to pick an equally effective word for this meaning. I think probably “xenophobic” is more accurate than “racist” in this case, but still not quite right.
    - pessimizer 10y ago
      Not right at all if a Russian poster is talking about Russians.
    - fnj 10y ago
      The word "xenoracism" has actually been applied, but it strikes me as a make-do lashed-together word. "Xenotyping" is no good because it already has a precise scientific definition. "Stereotyping" ends up the best description, though it's less than satisfactorily insulting.
      - jeff_petersen 10y ago
        > "Stereotyping" ends up the best description, though it's less than satisfactorily insulting. Why does it have to be insulting? Rather, why do you have to import shame from an unrelated activity to make your point? It seems to me like that trivializes racism and doesn't do very much to bolster this argument.
  - sinxoveretothex 10y ago

My words are true. Our (russians) colloquial lexicon have tremendous amount of words from thieves jargon. Constitution in Russia have less meaning than thieves' laws. Our users, even programmers/hackers are trying to get free any software - it's kind of snobbery to use paid software in Russia. Maybe it's something wild for you, but it's reality in Russia.

mlvljr 10y ago
Stop bullshitting our Western friends, pal :) The days of total piracy are quite long gone. To the degree of someone (not from Russia), living on mobile apps income, telling me, we are among his best-paying clients (apparently, preferring buying an app to watching ads :)).
nbaksalyar 10y ago
I don't get your point. Why generalize over 140M people with your assumptions about illegal software usage and "thieve laws" in Russia in the topic about reverse engineering the Skype client? How does it even relate to Russia?
- EugeneOZ 10y ago
  My reply was to comment about hacking culture. And it's not "assumptions" but experience.
- semi-extrinsic 10y ago
  Generalizations are useful, because they allow us to efficiently reason about the world. Eschewing them because of the content-free statement that "everyone is unique" leads us to a worse, not better, situation. Of course, this does not mean we should allow blatant racism, but in the real world it is useful to say things that are true but not necessarily nice. Or, if you want, you can stay in Katie-land: https://youtu.be/b47wP_yMCf4 https://youtu.be/b47wP_yMCf4
babuskov 10y ago
> it's kind of snobbery to use paid software in Russia Perhaps there's a big percentage of people who feel the same, but there are also many people who pay for software: http://www.pcgamer.com/gabe-newell-on-piracy-and-steams-success-in-russia/ http://www.pcgamer.com/gabe-newell-on-piracy-and-steams-succ...
- EugeneOZ 10y ago
  I'm not saying it's good, of course, I regret about such level of evolution. I use paid licenses :)

mac01021 10y ago

"Russian", is not a race. We should find another word for this kind of prejudice.

Jach 10y ago
There's the old and not as often used "stereotype". But it doesn't have the emotional impact like racist does, so... Anything that doesn't hit squarely at the pathos is right out.
- mac01021 10y ago
  Yeah. I guess I was saying that we, the Anglophone world, need to pick an equally effective word for this meaning. I think probably “xenophobic” is more accurate than “racist” in this case, but still not quite right.
  - pessimizer 10y ago
    Not right at all if a Russian poster is talking about Russians.
  - fnj 10y ago
    The word "xenoracism" has actually been applied, but it strikes me as a make-do lashed-together word. "Xenotyping" is no good because it already has a precise scientific definition. "Stereotyping" ends up the best description, though it's less than satisfactorily insulting.
    - jeff_petersen 10y ago
      > "Stereotyping" ends up the best description, though it's less than satisfactorily insulting. Why does it have to be insulting? Rather, why do you have to import shame from an unrelated activity to make your point? It seems to me like that trivializes racism and doesn't do very much to bolster this argument.
- sinxoveretothex 10y ago