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Remember that all of the classified information on the server was either not classified at the time or was 1 of 3 incorrectly marked classified emails. Also rem

by cm2012 10y ago

Remember that all of the classified information on the server was either not classified at the time or was 1 of 3 incorrectly marked classified emails. Also remember the official state server at the time was also confirmed hacked.

Claudus 10y ago
I made some updates to my post regarding classification. Being marked as classified was not something I would expect, instead you should operate as if all information is sensitive. Act as if information must be white-listed for public release. Much how the FBI is handling the data, each piece of information must be reviewed before release. The excuse of "not marked as classified" is akin to a thief using "not marked as don't steal" to justify theft.
- aceperry 10y ago
  'The excuse of "not marked as classified" is akin to a thief using "not marked as don't steal" to justify theft.' That doesn't make any sense.
  - Claudus 10y ago
    Do you think it's okay to run a private email server as your primary conduit for work communication, if nothing "marked as classified" is ever sent to you as Secretary of State? I'm not sure why it doesn't make sense. Removing any information, classified or not, off site is a huge no no. The fact that it was confidential information, that was later marked as such does not change the nature of the information.
EdSharkey 10y ago
But, why was she moving any State-related content off government computers? Why would she put herself and others at risk like that? These weren't all personal emails she was sending - she was discussing State department business with the foundation and with her trusted operator, Sidney Blumenthal. Worst of all is how sloppy everyone involved in this fiasco has been. I feel bad for Obama, what a cluster! > Also remember the official state server at the time was also confirmed hacked. Look, clearly Hillary engaged in unsafe IT practices. Could it be she was phished? Maybe she was the one who enabled the hack!
- ascagnel_ 10y ago
  Simple: the NSA refused to give Clinton the same secure BlackBerry setup they had provided President Obama.
  - EdSharkey 10y ago
    Has she claimed this anywhere in testimony? The reason I heard given was she needed a way to send emails of a personal nature. That reason and the one you've given sound like a dodge. Fact is, if she even tangentially admitted to knowingly transmitting information _marked_ confidential off State networks (which she did), she'd be guilty of multiple crimes and none of her friends could save her. She would be frog-marched off to the hoosegow. Hence, the endless excuses, waving-off, and feigned ignorance. The drip, drip, drip of damning evidence will continue and to save her skin all she can do is shrug absent-mindedly.
Claudus 10y ago
Very rarely did I see anything marked confidential. The assumption was that all work related documents and information was to be protected. As far as I was concerned, removing any work related data, email, or other information from the site was grounds for immediate termination and likely charges being brought. I don't know the practices at the state department, but for my section, the guideline was, "Just assume everything is sensitive, protect it, and you won't have any problems." Compiling a list of networked computers by IP and OS, that data would be considered sensitive, and obviously not to be removed off site, but would not be marked in any way. From a practical perspective, the "not marked as classified" doesn't really make sense to me, it may have some legal merit, but I couldn't speak to that.

by cm2012 10y ago

Claudus 10y ago

I made some updates to my post regarding classification. Being marked as classified was not something I would expect, instead you should operate as if all information is sensitive. Act as if information must be white-listed for public release. Much how the FBI is handling the data, each piece of information must be reviewed before release. The excuse of "not marked as classified" is akin to a thief using "not marked as don't steal" to justify theft.

aceperry 10y ago
'The excuse of "not marked as classified" is akin to a thief using "not marked as don't steal" to justify theft.' That doesn't make any sense.
- Claudus 10y ago
  Do you think it's okay to run a private email server as your primary conduit for work communication, if nothing "marked as classified" is ever sent to you as Secretary of State? I'm not sure why it doesn't make sense. Removing any information, classified or not, off site is a huge no no. The fact that it was confidential information, that was later marked as such does not change the nature of the information.

EdSharkey 10y ago

But, why was she moving any State-related content off government computers? Why would she put herself and others at risk like that? These weren't all personal emails she was sending - she was discussing State department business with the foundation and with her trusted operator, Sidney Blumenthal. Worst of all is how sloppy everyone involved in this fiasco has been. I feel bad for Obama, what a cluster! > Also remember the official state server at the time was also confirmed hacked. Look, clearly Hillary engaged in unsafe IT practices. Could it be she was phished? Maybe she was the one who enabled the hack!

ascagnel_ 10y ago
Simple: the NSA refused to give Clinton the same secure BlackBerry setup they had provided President Obama.
- EdSharkey 10y ago
  Has she claimed this anywhere in testimony? The reason I heard given was she needed a way to send emails of a personal nature. That reason and the one you've given sound like a dodge. Fact is, if she even tangentially admitted to knowingly transmitting information _marked_ confidential off State networks (which she did), she'd be guilty of multiple crimes and none of her friends could save her. She would be frog-marched off to the hoosegow. Hence, the endless excuses, waving-off, and feigned ignorance. The drip, drip, drip of damning evidence will continue and to save her skin all she can do is shrug absent-mindedly.

Claudus 10y ago

Very rarely did I see anything marked confidential. The assumption was that all work related documents and information was to be protected. As far as I was concerned, removing any work related data, email, or other information from the site was grounds for immediate termination and likely charges being brought. I don't know the practices at the state department, but for my section, the guideline was, "Just assume everything is sensitive, protect it, and you won't have any problems." Compiling a list of networked computers by IP and OS, that data would be considered sensitive, and obviously not to be removed off site, but would not be marked in any way. From a practical perspective, the "not marked as classified" doesn't really make sense to me, it may have some legal merit, but I couldn't speak to that.