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TLDR; personal vendetta against Crockford led to accusations of "sexism", and him getting uninvited from Nodevember conference. There is absolutely no proof of

by aikah 10y ago

TLDR; personal vendetta against Crockford led to accusations of "sexism", and him getting uninvited from Nodevember conference. There is absolutely no proof of sexism anywhere ,only a bunch of people who want to take him out professionally because he might have pissed them off for whatever reason in the past. Only now these people can use dubious political arguments to justify their vendetta. This can happen to anybody in any community.

eli 10y ago
I don't think public evidence of sexism matters if other speakers were uncomfortable enough to withdraw from the conference. They're trying to run a conference where people feel comfortable, not hold a public tribunal.
- bhk 10y ago
  Conflicting ideas and opinions can make some people uncomfortable. But this seems less like an attempt to avoid exposure to DC than an attempt to prevent others from being exposed.
  - eli 10y ago
    Whatever was said to the conference organizers was apparently persuasive enough for them. I'm not in a position to judge.
- dlmetcalf 10y ago
  So because someone else decides to withdraw, for whatever reason no matter how petty and irrational, that's now grounds for public character assassination of another professional and their being cast into exile? That's insane. The bar shouldn't just be automatically dropped down to whichever crybully can play the biggest victim. You don't need a public tribunal to understand this failed the reasonable person test.
- mlsarecmg 10y ago
  The "speakers" you talk about are two Twitter users. Kas Perch and Nexylove. They started to cry wolf, without any reason what so ever, and that's that, he is out, ruining it for those that actually wanted to learn about Javascript. Listen to actual conferences these two have held. Calling others assholes, subhuman, human garbage and worse simply for dismissing their twisted ideology. Kas has shamed Twitter users lives. All of this would be against Nodevembers CoC.
- PavlovsCat 10y ago
  Of course it matters: it determines who is the aggressor in this. Whatever argument you could make for "making others uncomfortable", it goes orders of magnitude more for the shit they pulled and the lukewarm reaction to it. That people don't want the tribunal, and inform others of the execution after the fact is the problem not the solution, and "I cannot judge this" to me just reads like code for washing your hands of not even trying. Plenty of variations of that to be had, all cloaking cowardice as intelligence or morality. SSDD.

by aikah 10y ago

eli 10y ago

I don't think public evidence of sexism matters if other speakers were uncomfortable enough to withdraw from the conference. They're trying to run a conference where people feel comfortable, not hold a public tribunal.

bhk 10y ago
Conflicting ideas and opinions can make some people uncomfortable. But this seems less like an attempt to avoid exposure to DC than an attempt to prevent others from being exposed.
- eli 10y ago
  Whatever was said to the conference organizers was apparently persuasive enough for them. I'm not in a position to judge.
dlmetcalf 10y ago
So because someone else decides to withdraw, for whatever reason no matter how petty and irrational, that's now grounds for public character assassination of another professional and their being cast into exile? That's insane. The bar shouldn't just be automatically dropped down to whichever crybully can play the biggest victim. You don't need a public tribunal to understand this failed the reasonable person test.
mlsarecmg 10y ago
The "speakers" you talk about are two Twitter users. Kas Perch and Nexylove. They started to cry wolf, without any reason what so ever, and that's that, he is out, ruining it for those that actually wanted to learn about Javascript. Listen to actual conferences these two have held. Calling others assholes, subhuman, human garbage and worse simply for dismissing their twisted ideology. Kas has shamed Twitter users lives. All of this would be against Nodevembers CoC.
PavlovsCat 10y ago
Of course it matters: it determines who is the aggressor in this. Whatever argument you could make for "making others uncomfortable", it goes orders of magnitude more for the shit they pulled and the lukewarm reaction to it. That people don't want the tribunal, and inform others of the execution after the fact is the problem not the solution, and "I cannot judge this" to me just reads like code for washing your hands of not even trying. Plenty of variations of that to be had, all cloaking cowardice as intelligence or morality. SSDD.