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ehhh No. Every election cycle sees both sides compared to hitler. Hitler hyperbole is immature. And if you look at enough speeches or statements from anyone you

ehhh No. Every election cycle sees both sides compared to hitler. Hitler hyperbole is immature. And if you look at enough speeches or statements from anyone you can compare to a dictator. Not that hard. You're also blatantly excluding the things he's said about legal immigrants and muslims that are overwhelmingly positive. You've made that choice to ignore positive statements. > "Trumps policy is...." No. Trump has said time and again, we have immigration laws and we need to follow them. That includes having more reinforced border fences or walls. Already law. The end of sanctuary cities, which are basically localized laws breaking federal law.

lisper 10y ago
> No. Trump has said time and again, we have immigration laws and we need to follow them. That's true, but that's not all he has said. He has also said that Mexicans are rapists, that Muslims should be banned from the U.S., and that he "doesn't know" about white supremacists. Among many, many other examples that I could cite. Trump is not an idiot. He's not going to grow a little mustache and call for a "final solution to the Muslim problem." But it is definitely fair to compare him to the Nazis because the Nazis provide a data point of what can happen when you give political power to xenophobes, which Trump most certainly is.
- michaelbuddy 10y ago
  You're referring to a speech, when Trump was specifically talking about illegal immigration and yes there are rapists and murderers among them. He also brought on stage mothers who have lost their children to these criminals. Fact: illegal immigrants make up a significant portion of the prison population. Trump is also concerned with radical islamic terrorism. There is a case for banning immigration from specific countries. We already do it, we also already prohibit U.S. businesses from doing business in specific countries. You can say his take on islamic terrorism / and islamic immigration is too hardline. I don't agree. There are clearly trends of actual radicalization within even second generation muslim immigrnts that require vigilance. Also the "doesn't know" statement regarding supremist groups was him partially hearing in his ear piece in a remote interview Tapper talking about disavowing "groups" Why would Trump "not know" when his daughter is married to a Jewish man? I noticed how you didn't bring up David Duke either and that's because you know full and well Trump in 2000 said disparaging things about Duke not that some 'disavowal' was needed. He has no association with any of them. So you're saying it's fair to compare him to Nazi's when his daughter is married to a Jewish man and he has many muslims living and staying in his buildings and that he has repeatedly said he holds in high regard. Time to face facts.
  - lisper 10y ago
    "There are rapists and murderers among them" is a very different statement than "they are rapists", which is what Trump actually said. There are rapists and murderers among the citizenry as well. That does not make "Americans are rapists" a true statement. > There is a case for banning immigration from specific countries But that is not what Trump has proposed. He has proposed a ban on Muslims. Muslim is a religion, not a nationality. > partially hearing That excuse has be thoroughly debunked. > his daughter is married to a Jewish man Jews are not the targets this time, Muslims are. > he has many muslims living and staying in his buildings Because he is not legally allowed to discriminate against them. Yet.
    - michaelbuddy 10y ago
      1. you're not taking entire context of that speech, it was entirely about illegals. 2. Has proposed and clarified many times. Btw Muslim ban would be legal but he's not gonna do it so who cares. 3. No not 'debunked' besides you're not thinking logically from a pov if he was who you thought. 4. White suprems don't like Jews. again you're simply not thinking. 5. Worthless comment and you're now ignoring facts of what he's said and lying.
      - lisper 10y ago
        > it was entirely about illegals Yes, of course we're talking about "illegals" (another loaded -- and offensive -- term, BTW). You seem to have completely lost the plot here. We are talking about people who are in the country "illegally" but through no fault of their own. They were brought to this country by their adoptive U.S. citizen parents when they were babies. They have no recollection of the event. (Certainly none of them had any control over it!) They have no memory of their native land, language or culture. They grew up as Americans believing in good faith that they were and are American citizens. And the only thing that makes them not American citizens is some paperwork that their parents failed to complete. But Trump would throw them out along with the rapists and the murderers and anyone else whose papers were not in order.

lisper 10y ago

> No. Trump has said time and again, we have immigration laws and we need to follow them. That's true, but that's not all he has said. He has also said that Mexicans are rapists, that Muslims should be banned from the U.S., and that he "doesn't know" about white supremacists. Among many, many other examples that I could cite. Trump is not an idiot. He's not going to grow a little mustache and call for a "final solution to the Muslim problem." But it is definitely fair to compare him to the Nazis because the Nazis provide a data point of what can happen when you give political power to xenophobes, which Trump most certainly is.

michaelbuddy 10y ago
You're referring to a speech, when Trump was specifically talking about illegal immigration and yes there are rapists and murderers among them. He also brought on stage mothers who have lost their children to these criminals. Fact: illegal immigrants make up a significant portion of the prison population. Trump is also concerned with radical islamic terrorism. There is a case for banning immigration from specific countries. We already do it, we also already prohibit U.S. businesses from doing business in specific countries. You can say his take on islamic terrorism / and islamic immigration is too hardline. I don't agree. There are clearly trends of actual radicalization within even second generation muslim immigrnts that require vigilance. Also the "doesn't know" statement regarding supremist groups was him partially hearing in his ear piece in a remote interview Tapper talking about disavowing "groups" Why would Trump "not know" when his daughter is married to a Jewish man? I noticed how you didn't bring up David Duke either and that's because you know full and well Trump in 2000 said disparaging things about Duke not that some 'disavowal' was needed. He has no association with any of them. So you're saying it's fair to compare him to Nazi's when his daughter is married to a Jewish man and he has many muslims living and staying in his buildings and that he has repeatedly said he holds in high regard. Time to face facts.
- lisper 10y ago
  "There are rapists and murderers among them" is a very different statement than "they are rapists", which is what Trump actually said. There are rapists and murderers among the citizenry as well. That does not make "Americans are rapists" a true statement. > There is a case for banning immigration from specific countries But that is not what Trump has proposed. He has proposed a ban on Muslims. Muslim is a religion, not a nationality. > partially hearing That excuse has be thoroughly debunked. > his daughter is married to a Jewish man Jews are not the targets this time, Muslims are. > he has many muslims living and staying in his buildings Because he is not legally allowed to discriminate against them. Yet.
  - michaelbuddy 10y ago
    1. you're not taking entire context of that speech, it was entirely about illegals. 2. Has proposed and clarified many times. Btw Muslim ban would be legal but he's not gonna do it so who cares. 3. No not 'debunked' besides you're not thinking logically from a pov if he was who you thought. 4. White suprems don't like Jews. again you're simply not thinking. 5. Worthless comment and you're now ignoring facts of what he's said and lying.
    - lisper 10y ago
      > it was entirely about illegals Yes, of course we're talking about "illegals" (another loaded -- and offensive -- term, BTW). You seem to have completely lost the plot here. We are talking about people who are in the country "illegally" but through no fault of their own. They were brought to this country by their adoptive U.S. citizen parents when they were babies. They have no recollection of the event. (Certainly none of them had any control over it!) They have no memory of their native land, language or culture. They grew up as Americans believing in good faith that they were and are American citizens. And the only thing that makes them not American citizens is some paperwork that their parents failed to complete. But Trump would throw them out along with the rapists and the murderers and anyone else whose papers were not in order.