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I'll take a stab at it. In the US, the protectionist/isolationist policies (building a wall to keep out undesirables, bringing jobs back into the states in orde

by nomat 10y ago

I'll take a stab at it. In the US, the protectionist/isolationist policies (building a wall to keep out undesirables, bringing jobs back into the states in order to re-greatenize our economy, heavy tariffs on imports) that some people want are being advocated for (in earnest or not) by the republican candidate. The globalists here are represented by the democratic party. TTIP, pushing for transnational corporate benefits at the expense of the country's citizens, etc. I think that norikki is alluding to the fact that the republican candidate has often been compared to hitler due to his demogoguery and penchant for blaming the 'others' as the source of the country's woes. There's also the issue of the actual neo-nazis who support him but that's a little off-topic in this context. Essentially the globalists/capitalists/neoliberals are the puppeteers of the democratic party and their strategy has been to smear the opposition as nazis, when really they are patriots who just want what's best for their own country. (Yes, I know how this sounds.) I don't take a position on any of it but this is my interpretation of the views that people have about the political state of things.

Spooky23 10y ago
The thing to note is that the republicans are American exceptionalists, and their policy doesn't match the bark. The same Senator barking about Mexicans is stuffing his pockets from agribusiness and other donors who need cheap and exploitable labor. That's one of the reasons we had the parade of clowns running for president -- the conservatives that actually believe in insanity like deporting 10M people are sick of hetting lied to.
- norikki 10y ago
  Deporting 30 million people is not insanity. Letting them in is.
wallace_f 10y ago
Not to mention what is going on around the world. Imagine being German. My friend, she is German, living in Germany. Her very young sister (barely a teenager) was sexually assaulted at their community swimming pool by migrant refugees. Of course, on the one hand, migrant refugees of German descent could also commit this dastardly behaviour, but on the other hand, speaking out against allowing refugees is seen as politically incorrect in both Germany and globally. That answers the question here. My friend says she used to go to that neighbourhood swimming pool without her parents - because they had lifeguards there, and everyone felt safe letting their kids go there. Now, no locals go there, according to her -- and especially not children -- after that happened. Somehow we live in this world where the above ultra-tolerant politics exist, yet I sat on an airplane with a 20-something hispanic women's studies girl who told me "yea but my neighbourhood is ghetto," and as she described it, she said "you'd be beat real bad if ya' ever came through there," and I said "wow, that's a shame," and she said, "no, it's right that way, because you discriminated against us so it's right that now we are taking what's ours and if you or your people come to my neighbourhood you will be shown what's up." No one bats an eye at that, WTF is this shit. How did it come to be that our media, politicians and education is shaping the world in this way? The real scary thing is, even just saying this, I have this real fear of pressing enter, that someone will take this post and label me, somehow, through some twisted logic, a racist, and that my career, friendships, and life will be ruined.

by nomat 10y ago

Spooky23 10y ago

The thing to note is that the republicans are American exceptionalists, and their policy doesn't match the bark. The same Senator barking about Mexicans is stuffing his pockets from agribusiness and other donors who need cheap and exploitable labor. That's one of the reasons we had the parade of clowns running for president -- the conservatives that actually believe in insanity like deporting 10M people are sick of hetting lied to.

norikki 10y ago
Deporting 30 million people is not insanity. Letting them in is.

wallace_f 10y ago

Not to mention what is going on around the world. Imagine being German. My friend, she is German, living in Germany. Her very young sister (barely a teenager) was sexually assaulted at their community swimming pool by migrant refugees. Of course, on the one hand, migrant refugees of German descent could also commit this dastardly behaviour, but on the other hand, speaking out against allowing refugees is seen as politically incorrect in both Germany and globally. That answers the question here. My friend says she used to go to that neighbourhood swimming pool without her parents - because they had lifeguards there, and everyone felt safe letting their kids go there. Now, no locals go there, according to her -- and especially not children -- after that happened. Somehow we live in this world where the above ultra-tolerant politics exist, yet I sat on an airplane with a 20-something hispanic women's studies girl who told me "yea but my neighbourhood is ghetto," and as she described it, she said "you'd be beat real bad if ya' ever came through there," and I said "wow, that's a shame," and she said, "no, it's right that way, because you discriminated against us so it's right that now we are taking what's ours and if you or your people come to my neighbourhood you will be shown what's up." No one bats an eye at that, WTF is this shit. How did it come to be that our media, politicians and education is shaping the world in this way? The real scary thing is, even just saying this, I have this real fear of pressing enter, that someone will take this post and label me, somehow, through some twisted logic, a racist, and that my career, friendships, and life will be ruined.