And how many grandmothers have successfully defended themselves with a weapon? That's the missing side. (And yes, the numbers for that vary from 55,000 to 4.7 m

And how many grandmothers have successfully defended themselves with a weapon? That's the missing side. (And yes, the numbers for that vary from 55,000 to 4.7 million total home defense use - good luck on narrowing it down to kabdib scenario of 80 year old grandmothers.) I believe the higher number includes grandmothers who defended herself with a weapon without firing it, in which case the balance has to include all crimes which were committed with a gun. Really I'm annoyed with kabdib for using a hypothetical scenario to justify personal gun ownership, when for decades everyone has pointed out how meaningless such scenarios are for meaningful policy change. I never said it was "guns per se". I'm well aware of countries like Switzerland and Finland with a high gun ownership, though not as high as the US, and don't have the same sorts of gun-related violence. I agree that real estate and vehicle titles are different things. My point was that I disagreed with the blanket statement "It's no business of the government's what purchases I make."