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Can you point to any evidence even in the fringe sciences that would attempt to prove that monkeys have self awareness?
by ThomPete 10y ago
Can you point to any evidence even in the fringe sciences that would attempt to prove that monkeys have self awareness?
- janpieterz 10y agoNot an expert, but it's certainly something that's actively researched... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-awareness#Animals https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-awareness#Animals
- daveguy 10y agoI always thought the mirror test / mark test was a pretty well established test for self awareness, and several animals pass it. It's not particularly fringe. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirror_test https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirror_test
- greggyb 10y agoActually, this is called into question in the fine article: > (Incidentally, Gallup's mirror test — removing a paint splotch from your face while looking at a mirror — is not an adequate test of self awareness, even though it is touted as such. We have seen patients who vehemently claim that their reflection in the mirror is "someone else" yet they pass the Gallup test!)
- daveguy 10y agoThe point is that awareness testing is not a fringe part of animal behavioral studies. This would be a potential area of research for mainstream animal behavior study (paired mirror tests).
- UlyssesSKrunk 10y agoWhy would you need the fringe sciences to support the current scientific consensus on something? It's like you're asking for crazy physicists to prove that a feather and hammer will fall at the same speed in a vacuum. Everybody knows that.