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I've read that bicycles might be even more challenging for autonomous vehicles than other human drivers.

toufka 10y ago
Easy. Bike roads. Separate roads for bikes. Layout is much less than for cars, can overlap with pedestrians for last mile, and takes up signifigantly less space and can be used duel purpose with other slow vehicles.
- jacalata 10y ago
  Ah, so self driving cars will be a thing as soon as we completely duplicate the road network. That sounds pretty realistic actually.
  - rusted_planet 10y ago
    I don't know a lot about the topic, how well do the current autonomous vehicles handle roads not currently on GPS , I.e private drives and such. I now understand it can handle the terrain, thanks for the explanation that is pretty neat they could do it thirty years ago, just curious when I tell it to go to a house in the middle of a 20 acre property with multiple private roads, and I use the term road lightly, if it is actively going to search for a path or if it will have to have manual intervention. I have seen google cars handle well mapped streets, just curious.
- sevenless 10y ago
  It's also possible that cyclists can adapt to sharing roads with robots. Perhaps by RFID-tagging their bikes, or wearing something LIDAR-visible. At least the autonomous vehicles aren't deliberately hostile, and conflicts between cyclists and drivers over road rules designed around cars, not bikes, might be restructured. The knock-on effects are more interesting, in some ways. A nation where shared, autonomous vehicles are normal would likely have a totally different set of considerations in urban planning. Cars and spontaneous roadtrains can take the place of light rail and urban transport. Inner-city parking might disappear, and commutes could be much longer. You can imagine two effects: suburbs could really spread out for those who want space and don't mind a couple of hours each way reading the newspaper or snoozing, and cities can concentrate and build way up as you no longer have to build parking space into apartments. A more densely populated city with fewer dedicated drivers might have more political reasons to become bike-friendly.

Easy. Bike roads. Separate roads for bikes. Layout is much less than for cars, can overlap with pedestrians for last mile, and takes up signifigantly less space and can be used duel purpose with other slow vehicles.

jacalata 10y ago
Ah, so self driving cars will be a thing as soon as we completely duplicate the road network. That sounds pretty realistic actually.
- rusted_planet 10y ago
  I don't know a lot about the topic, how well do the current autonomous vehicles handle roads not currently on GPS , I.e private drives and such. I now understand it can handle the terrain, thanks for the explanation that is pretty neat they could do it thirty years ago, just curious when I tell it to go to a house in the middle of a 20 acre property with multiple private roads, and I use the term road lightly, if it is actively going to search for a path or if it will have to have manual intervention. I have seen google cars handle well mapped streets, just curious.
sevenless 10y ago
It's also possible that cyclists can adapt to sharing roads with robots. Perhaps by RFID-tagging their bikes, or wearing something LIDAR-visible. At least the autonomous vehicles aren't deliberately hostile, and conflicts between cyclists and drivers over road rules designed around cars, not bikes, might be restructured. The knock-on effects are more interesting, in some ways. A nation where shared, autonomous vehicles are normal would likely have a totally different set of considerations in urban planning. Cars and spontaneous roadtrains can take the place of light rail and urban transport. Inner-city parking might disappear, and commutes could be much longer. You can imagine two effects: suburbs could really spread out for those who want space and don't mind a couple of hours each way reading the newspaper or snoozing, and cities can concentrate and build way up as you no longer have to build parking space into apartments. A more densely populated city with fewer dedicated drivers might have more political reasons to become bike-friendly.