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My rationale behind not supporting any compromise is simple: the other side does not want me to have any guns. Imagine if the most anti-gun position in America

My rationale behind not supporting any compromise is simple: the other side does not want me to have any guns. Imagine if the most anti-gun position in America was still very pro-gun people like say Charleton Heston, then I'd be willing for a compromise. I would be ok with building a registry where the police can search for guns. But the fact is, we know that Hillary Clinton talks about how Australia successfully got rid of all its guns. We know that the ultimate goal isn't a happy compromise in the middle. This is why the 'cold dead hands' mentality exists in America. It's like imagine if Republicans want a national registry of people by their religion. Or national ethnicity database. The Democrats wouldn't (and shouldn't) give an inch on that.

karmacondon 10y ago
Insane. No politician is calling for a complete elimination of guns. That idea has never been proposed or discussed seriously in any way. I don't think even the fringe of the anti-gun lobby wants to get rid of all guns. This is probably one of the most successful strawmen in all of US politics. I don't think anyone on either side actually believes that the government would ever try to confiscate all guns
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- splintercell 10y ago
  > Insane. No politician is calling for a complete elimination of guns. That idea has never been proposed or discussed seriously in any way. I don't think even the fringe of the anti-gun lobby wants to get rid of all guns. Are you serious? I can't determine if you're being sarcastic or not. Sure the idea has never been formally proposed, because no politician will ever get elected in America if they proposed such idea. But here's Hillary Clinton for you: > I do not know enough detail to tell you how we would do it, or how it would work, but certainly the Australian example is worth looking at.< Now you may say that Hillary Clinton didn't mean gun confiscation by 'Australian example', but it's clear she clearly isn't appalled by Australian gun confiscation. Why Australian example? Why not Canadian example? Why not French example? Sure maybe this is not a strong correlation. But then Democrats get caught all the time talking about complete elimination of guns when they think they are not on Camera: http://dailycaller.com/2015/12/01/maryland-deputy-ag-reveals-secrets-in-hotel-meetings-with-undercover-okeefe-reporter-video/ http://dailycaller.com/2015/12/01/maryland-deputy-ag-reveals... Matt Damon openly supports Australia styles gun confiscation: http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/07/06/matt-damon-mass-gun-confiscation-needed-us-australia http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/07/06/matt-damon-mass-gun-co... I'm sorry, but I don't believe that the ideal vision of America gun control proponents have is to have no civilian ownership of guns.
  - shalmanese 10y ago
    Australia hasn't eliminated all guns. In fact, the number of guns owned legally by Australians now exceeds the number pre-Port Arthur.
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karmacondon 10y ago

Insane. No politician is calling for a complete elimination of guns. That idea has never been proposed or discussed seriously in any way. I don't think even the fringe of the anti-gun lobby wants to get rid of all guns. This is probably one of the most successful strawmen in all of US politics. I don't think anyone on either side actually believes that the government would ever try to confiscate all guns

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splintercell 10y ago
> Insane. No politician is calling for a complete elimination of guns. That idea has never been proposed or discussed seriously in any way. I don't think even the fringe of the anti-gun lobby wants to get rid of all guns. Are you serious? I can't determine if you're being sarcastic or not. Sure the idea has never been formally proposed, because no politician will ever get elected in America if they proposed such idea. But here's Hillary Clinton for you: > I do not know enough detail to tell you how we would do it, or how it would work, but certainly the Australian example is worth looking at.< Now you may say that Hillary Clinton didn't mean gun confiscation by 'Australian example', but it's clear she clearly isn't appalled by Australian gun confiscation. Why Australian example? Why not Canadian example? Why not French example? Sure maybe this is not a strong correlation. But then Democrats get caught all the time talking about complete elimination of guns when they think they are not on Camera: http://dailycaller.com/2015/12/01/maryland-deputy-ag-reveals-secrets-in-hotel-meetings-with-undercover-okeefe-reporter-video/ http://dailycaller.com/2015/12/01/maryland-deputy-ag-reveals... Matt Damon openly supports Australia styles gun confiscation: http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/07/06/matt-damon-mass-gun-confiscation-needed-us-australia http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/07/06/matt-damon-mass-gun-co... I'm sorry, but I don't believe that the ideal vision of America gun control proponents have is to have no civilian ownership of guns.
- shalmanese 10y ago
  Australia hasn't eliminated all guns. In fact, the number of guns owned legally by Australians now exceeds the number pre-Port Arthur.

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