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Sorry to hear about the 3 month delay and provides some insight in the construction of luxury cars at least Lexus. Auto manufacturers were warned that the prop

Sorry to hear about the 3 month delay and provides some insight in the construction of luxury cars at least Lexus. Auto manufacturers were warned that the propellant for the airbags was dangerous and were warned by other airbag vendors who refused to use it to save a few dollars per airbag and lost the contract to the Japanese airbag vendor. I wonder if other luxury brands such as BMW, Mercedes, Audi, used these types of airbags. I'm guessing not.

davidf18 10y ago
Well, I was wrong. Here is a list of cars effected with recalls for using the "save a few dollars" airbag using a propellant that was known ahead of time to be problematic. http://www.nydailynews.com/autos/news/takata-airbag-recall-list-cars-article-1.2602999 http://www.nydailynews.com/autos/news/takata-airbag-recall-l... Brands include: BMW, Mercedes, Land Rover, Jaguar, Audi, Lexus,.... These companies sell themselves as luxury brands and their cars are very expensive, but it seems clear that the MBAs and bean counters are running these companies and not engineers and car designers. This is my HN submission of a NY Times story on the topic of the airbag recall. One can read how the auto manufacturers deliberately put their customers at risk to save a few dollars per automobile. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12367031 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12367031 The question I have is since it seems clear that engineers don't get to decide the safety of the car design and proper engineering in these luxury brands, how do we trust these luxury car manufacturers to even allow the engineers to design the car that they think is best and not the bean counters?
el_benhameen 10y ago
I think this is a Takata (or perhaps Toyota, which owns Lexus) thing, not a luxury car thing. I waited the same three months for a new airbag for my Corolla.

davidf18 10y ago

Well, I was wrong. Here is a list of cars effected with recalls for using the "save a few dollars" airbag using a propellant that was known ahead of time to be problematic. http://www.nydailynews.com/autos/news/takata-airbag-recall-list-cars-article-1.2602999 http://www.nydailynews.com/autos/news/takata-airbag-recall-l... Brands include: BMW, Mercedes, Land Rover, Jaguar, Audi, Lexus,.... These companies sell themselves as luxury brands and their cars are very expensive, but it seems clear that the MBAs and bean counters are running these companies and not engineers and car designers. This is my HN submission of a NY Times story on the topic of the airbag recall. One can read how the auto manufacturers deliberately put their customers at risk to save a few dollars per automobile. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12367031 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12367031 The question I have is since it seems clear that engineers don't get to decide the safety of the car design and proper engineering in these luxury brands, how do we trust these luxury car manufacturers to even allow the engineers to design the car that they think is best and not the bean counters?

el_benhameen 10y ago

I think this is a Takata (or perhaps Toyota, which owns Lexus) thing, not a luxury car thing. I waited the same three months for a new airbag for my Corolla.