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Posting my suggestion here: Since the HN community is data oriented at its heart, it would be very interesting to have everything out in the open, in real time

by BenoitP 10y ago

Posting my suggestion here: Since the HN community is data oriented at its heart, it would be very interesting to have everything out in the open, in real time, for users to have their own model of ranking. All the data: comments, stories and most importantly each upvote linked to its user. People would build their own model for tagging, filtering. I'd personnally try ALS-WR [1], or maybe try to tinker with distance metric learning [2]. It would help everyone get exposed to the exact content they might upvote. [1] http://www.grappa.univ-lille3.fr/~mary/cours/stats/centrale/reco/paper/MatrixFactorizationALS.pdf http://www.grappa.univ-lille3.fr/~mary/cours/stats/centrale/... [2] http://papers.nips.cc/paper/2164-distance-metric-learning-with-application-toclustering-with-side-information.pdf http://papers.nips.cc/paper/2164-distance-metric-learning-wi...

throwawayReply 10y ago
If it were I'm the open it would be too obvious how much "management" and curation happens. From artificially boosting some articles to artificially nixing others, there isn't just 'an algorithm' there is a bunch of human intervention that also happens. HN claims that it is the algorithm 'detecting' and flagging controversial threads but they've never posted their methodology there and it doesn't explain how some posts artificially leap up the rankings. It is common knowledge that hn ask people to resubmit some stories, why is it those stories always hit the front-page the second time around? Hn is a curated news source. It's better for being that way but it is presented as being driven by algorithm. Sometimes it is better not to see the man behind the curtain.
pjc50 10y ago
each upvote linked to its user I think you've drastically underestimated the ability of people to abuse systems like that.
sandGorgon 10y ago
The opensource Lobsters - https://lobste.rs/moderations https://lobste.rs/moderations (and my own fork of it with lots more cool features http://www.hackergully.com/ http://www.hackergully.com/) builds transparency into its core. even the invite system is transparent. I thought that was very impressive.

by BenoitP 10y ago

throwawayReply 10y ago

If it were I'm the open it would be too obvious how much "management" and curation happens. From artificially boosting some articles to artificially nixing others, there isn't just 'an algorithm' there is a bunch of human intervention that also happens. HN claims that it is the algorithm 'detecting' and flagging controversial threads but they've never posted their methodology there and it doesn't explain how some posts artificially leap up the rankings. It is common knowledge that hn ask people to resubmit some stories, why is it those stories always hit the front-page the second time around? Hn is a curated news source. It's better for being that way but it is presented as being driven by algorithm. Sometimes it is better not to see the man behind the curtain.

pjc50 10y ago

each upvote linked to its user I think you've drastically underestimated the ability of people to abuse systems like that.

sandGorgon 10y ago

The opensource Lobsters - https://lobste.rs/moderations https://lobste.rs/moderations (and my own fork of it with lots more cool features http://www.hackergully.com/ http://www.hackergully.com/) builds transparency into its core. even the invite system is transparent. I thought that was very impressive.