> I find it difficult to find anyone who uses more than Excel and eighth grade level mathematics (=arithmetic, and a little bit of algebra, statistics and progr

> I find it difficult to find anyone who uses more than Excel and eighth grade level mathematics (=arithmetic, and a little bit of algebra, statistics and programming) Statistics and programming is way way higher than eighth grade from what I've seen. But taking his premise above, then I think no one is arguing for the general public to learn more than the aforementioned eighth-grade maths. It's just that the majority of the population isn't any where near that. Specifically in statistics, programming, and a bit of logical reasoning, I might add (around modus tollens). I might be mistaken here, but I've always thought that when someone talks about "higher maths" the public should learn, it is capped around calculus I, or some basic linear algebra. Which is like half a year more study over the list of the author.