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I don't see how that is unique to Linux. Plenty of people, probably more, have had those same experiences with other operating systems. I can see why someone wo
by uola 10y ago
I don't see how that is unique to Linux. Plenty of people, probably more, have had those same experiences with other operating systems. I can see why someone would like, or even prefer, to tinker with Linux and it would of course be a loss if it didn't exist, but that doesn't mean that Linux developers are the only ones tinkering. So it does seem like that it's primarily an ideological difference in what tinkering means.
Unfortunately the Linux community largely seem to attract and retain people who mainly care about their own freedom to tinker. Every time someone pushes out something broken, users lose thousands of tinkering man hours on trying to make those things work for themselves. As someone who likes to tinker, time is my most valuable commodity and Linux doesn't respect my time.
- mbrock 10y agoDo you see how it's a bit rude to insist that my personal appreciation of free software and open source is "ideological" when I just explained how it is actually based on my own concrete experience of being able to modify and share programs within the free software community?
- uola 10y agoYou are free to tell me why you think I'm rude or respond to any of my argument and I'll be happy to answer, but please don't use this rhetoric were I'm supposed to either admit that I'm rude or come off as arrogant denying it.
- mbrock 10y agoI'm content just to let you know I think it's rude. Sorry I don't have time to explain exactly why right now.
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- Sylos 10y agoThe point is not whether you can tinker or not, the point is how much you can. And Linux allows you to tinker with stuff with which neither Windows nor OSX would ever let you play.
- uola 10y agoYes and those arguments, that open source is a good or even the best way to tinker is to a large extent based on the ideology of open source. Someone who isn't convinced about the greatness of open source and/or might prefer other things like a large application ecosystem or other forms of tooling won't agree that this aspect of Linux is important.