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What about the other directions? How many people commute from Birmingham, for example? It's only 126 miles away? That's a 30 commute sometime this century.

by melling 10y ago

What about the other directions? How many people commute from Birmingham, for example? It's only 126 miles away? That's a 30 commute sometime this century. It's really just a question of when.

pjc50 10y ago
"HS2" is under construction which should make it more like an hour, although anyone with experience of UK trains will be skeptical. Today if you said you were commuting from Birmingham on a daily basis people would regard it as a bit extreme. There are people who commute from Barcelona, although not many.
- stuaxo 10y ago
  Hs2 is not gonna be cheap...
alimw 10y ago
Well it'll be 49 minutes in 2026 if HS2 goes ahead. (Waste of money though if you ask me.)
Symbiote 10y ago
According to the visualisation [1], something like 1000 people commute from Birmingham to Central London. Though it's not easy to tell, as London is divided into many statistical areas. It's 85 minutes at the moment [2], plus the journey from Euston Station to the office in London. 85 minutes is commonly accepted for a total journey, but I'd guess most people with longer journeys are only doing this temporarily. If you find places closer to London on the map, you'll see many thousands of people make ~30 minute journeys by train into London, before continuing by metro/bus/whatever. (If you can find it, try and click "Westminster and City of London". It's small.) [1] http://www.neighbourhood.statistics.gov.uk/HTMLDocs/dvc193/ http://www.neighbourhood.statistics.gov.uk/HTMLDocs/dvc193/ [2] http://traintimes.org.uk/Birmingham/Euston/0800/Monday http://traintimes.org.uk/Birmingham/Euston/0800/Monday
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7952 10y ago
It is unpalatable to me that we are wasting such a vast quantity of resources on moving people about. Our transport system can barely cope with people travelling modest distances.
Theodores 10y ago
I have actually done that commute. The company I was working for relocated to London from Birmingham, I moved with them. However there was a few months when I was still in 'Brum' and having to get stuff setup in London. I did have options to stay with friends in the Brixton area. However the walk to the bus, the wait for the bus, the bus journey to the Brixton tube, the tube journey to Green Park, the walk from one platform to another, then the connecting tube journey followed by the final walk to the office took longer door-to-door than my commute up/down to Birmingham. I could walk to Euston, hop on the train and get a taxi at the other end. The time on the train was 'productive' rather than noisy and stressful (compared to going south of the river). Fortunately my employers were paying my train and taxi fares, had they not done that then I would not have had an economically viable commute. Top tip for anyone needing to work in London - don't go by public transport and live somewhere without a tube station. Get a bicycle - it is quicker - or an electric scooter. Although these central London properties might look like amazing places to live, bear in mind that the air in central London could kill you...

by melling 10y ago

What about the other directions? How many people commute from Birmingham, for example? It's only 126 miles away? That's a 30 commute sometime this century. It's really just a question of when.

pjc50 10y ago

"HS2" is under construction which should make it more like an hour, although anyone with experience of UK trains will be skeptical. Today if you said you were commuting from Birmingham on a daily basis people would regard it as a bit extreme. There are people who commute from Barcelona, although not many.

stuaxo 10y ago
Hs2 is not gonna be cheap...

alimw 10y ago

Well it'll be 49 minutes in 2026 if HS2 goes ahead. (Waste of money though if you ask me.)

Symbiote 10y ago

According to the visualisation [1], something like 1000 people commute from Birmingham to Central London. Though it's not easy to tell, as London is divided into many statistical areas. It's 85 minutes at the moment [2], plus the journey from Euston Station to the office in London. 85 minutes is commonly accepted for a total journey, but I'd guess most people with longer journeys are only doing this temporarily. If you find places closer to London on the map, you'll see many thousands of people make ~30 minute journeys by train into London, before continuing by metro/bus/whatever. (If you can find it, try and click "Westminster and City of London". It's small.) [1] http://www.neighbourhood.statistics.gov.uk/HTMLDocs/dvc193/ http://www.neighbourhood.statistics.gov.uk/HTMLDocs/dvc193/ [2] http://traintimes.org.uk/Birmingham/Euston/0800/Monday http://traintimes.org.uk/Birmingham/Euston/0800/Monday

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7952 10y ago

It is unpalatable to me that we are wasting such a vast quantity of resources on moving people about. Our transport system can barely cope with people travelling modest distances.

Theodores 10y ago

I have actually done that commute. The company I was working for relocated to London from Birmingham, I moved with them. However there was a few months when I was still in 'Brum' and having to get stuff setup in London. I did have options to stay with friends in the Brixton area. However the walk to the bus, the wait for the bus, the bus journey to the Brixton tube, the tube journey to Green Park, the walk from one platform to another, then the connecting tube journey followed by the final walk to the office took longer door-to-door than my commute up/down to Birmingham. I could walk to Euston, hop on the train and get a taxi at the other end. The time on the train was 'productive' rather than noisy and stressful (compared to going south of the river). Fortunately my employers were paying my train and taxi fares, had they not done that then I would not have had an economically viable commute. Top tip for anyone needing to work in London - don't go by public transport and live somewhere without a tube station. Get a bicycle - it is quicker - or an electric scooter. Although these central London properties might look like amazing places to live, bear in mind that the air in central London could kill you...