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A subsidy is as good as state aid. Is subsidy a form of tax, no. It is an issue of tax, not even as blurry as a subsidy. China and the EU pertain the exact sa

A subsidy is as good as state aid. Is subsidy a form of tax, no. It is an issue of tax, not even as blurry as a subsidy. China and the EU pertain the exact same way as Ireland and the EU. The EU has no say over Ireland's tax affairs. Taxes are not state aids, Any form of say on tax in any way at all needs all member states to agree, - as from the Treaty of Lisbon on Tax Affairs. It's a shame really that this is brought up, because one of two things will happen 1) It will be said the EU has control over the state of Ireland's tax policy, through the guise of 'state aid'. What fun that'll be 2) The ruling will be overturned and the EC will not be able to easily govern on its rulings. Legislation will be brought about to seek more control over EU member states. Either way, each spell trouble for the EU. You can see the Brexiteers laughing.

Oletros 10y ago
> A subsidy is as good as state aid. Is subsidy a form of tax, no. Second time, what China does is not EU problem > It is an issue of tax, not even as blurry as a subsidy. No, it is not a tax issue., Read the press release. > China and the EU pertain the exact same way as Ireland and the EU. The EU has no say over Ireland's tax affairs. The EC has authority over state aids and this ruling has nothing to do with the tax system or tax rates from EU members > Taxes are not state aids, Any form of say on tax in any way at all needs all member states to agree, - as from the Treaty of Lisbon on Tax Affairs. This is not a tax affair. But as it is clear that you have not read the press release, you don't want to read it and you will repeat the same wrong things again and again, have a nice day. But reality is what it is and this cas is not a damn tax case
- neximo64 10y ago
  It is a tax affair. That is very clear. I don't know how there is another way to see it. Read about what Ireland gave Apple. They didn't give them cash, unless I misunderstand that. They gave Apple a tax deal, and the EU has no control over tax affairs of its member states. It really is quite simple.

Oletros 10y ago

> A subsidy is as good as state aid. Is subsidy a form of tax, no. Second time, what China does is not EU problem > It is an issue of tax, not even as blurry as a subsidy. No, it is not a tax issue., Read the press release. > China and the EU pertain the exact same way as Ireland and the EU. The EU has no say over Ireland's tax affairs. The EC has authority over state aids and this ruling has nothing to do with the tax system or tax rates from EU members > Taxes are not state aids, Any form of say on tax in any way at all needs all member states to agree, - as from the Treaty of Lisbon on Tax Affairs. This is not a tax affair. But as it is clear that you have not read the press release, you don't want to read it and you will repeat the same wrong things again and again, have a nice day. But reality is what it is and this cas is not a damn tax case

neximo64 10y ago
It is a tax affair. That is very clear. I don't know how there is another way to see it. Read about what Ireland gave Apple. They didn't give them cash, unless I misunderstand that. They gave Apple a tax deal, and the EU has no control over tax affairs of its member states. It really is quite simple.