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I still have my 3.3 discs and the 4.x discs with the wall of documentation. I'm tempted to install it again, if for nothing else to get at some very old e-mail

I still have my 3.3 discs and the 4.x discs with the wall of documentation. I'm tempted to install it again, if for nothing else to get at some very old e-mail I sent. I think some of the "dated" is that it wasn't very high resolution, or put another way, it really didn't get to evolve into the high resolution / anti-aliased world we live in today. I've seen multiple attempts at redoing the icons in a modern setting and many of them look great. I particularly like the old folders. The menus suffer from the same problem, but more from a modern font choice scenario. For me, OS X stripped a lot of the NeXT goodness to appease Mac lovers. I'm just not a fan of a UI designed for a 9" screen that really should have a better menu system. Recently, I've seen some 3rd party software that simulates part of the old NeXTSTEP menu system. Sadly, it doesn't seem to do the tear-offs. I guess OS X is loads better than Windows, but it sure isn't my favorite. My two big "not working" projects are an agent oriented programing language and some form of modernized NeXTSTEP UI on OpenBSD. Sadly, more likely to do the former rather than the later.

IncRnd 10y ago
I installed it last night, making sure to get the patches in order to use VESA not just SVGA. That gave me color. NS sure is beautiful. My color slab wasn't this good looking, since the slab had 16 bits of color. The dated part for me is having to setup the OS for some workflows that have come about since NS days. Some things for scroll wheels not getting recognized out of the box and other polish. WS is great, though I'd change the Drag and Drop just a little. My memory of WS must have tarnished or faded some over the years, because it was and is really easy to work with. I'll likely install the developer cd this weekend. Thanks, again, for getting me to reinstall. On a side note, there are commercial projects that use GNUstep. I use Hopper, a disassembler, that uses GNUstep. From the developer training I still remember one statement in particular, "Even if NS isn't around in a few years, there will be a company that deeply understands what we do and they will do it." I guess that prophetically was OS X (at least in part).
- protomyth 10y ago
  What guide did you use to do the install?
  - IncRnd 10y ago
    This one looks pretty good. http://openstep.bfx.re/ http://openstep.bfx.re/ I haven't been able to figure out the networking. I have the ne2k driver, but it doesn't seem to install. I suppose the copy I have is somehow corrupted.

IncRnd 10y ago

I installed it last night, making sure to get the patches in order to use VESA not just SVGA. That gave me color. NS sure is beautiful. My color slab wasn't this good looking, since the slab had 16 bits of color. The dated part for me is having to setup the OS for some workflows that have come about since NS days. Some things for scroll wheels not getting recognized out of the box and other polish. WS is great, though I'd change the Drag and Drop just a little. My memory of WS must have tarnished or faded some over the years, because it was and is really easy to work with. I'll likely install the developer cd this weekend. Thanks, again, for getting me to reinstall. On a side note, there are commercial projects that use GNUstep. I use Hopper, a disassembler, that uses GNUstep. From the developer training I still remember one statement in particular, "Even if NS isn't around in a few years, there will be a company that deeply understands what we do and they will do it." I guess that prophetically was OS X (at least in part).

protomyth 10y ago
What guide did you use to do the install?
- IncRnd 10y ago
  This one looks pretty good. http://openstep.bfx.re/ http://openstep.bfx.re/ I haven't been able to figure out the networking. I have the ne2k driver, but it doesn't seem to install. I suppose the copy I have is somehow corrupted.