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I made this same point the other day and got down voted for suggesting that Ireland may leave the EU over this.

by tmaly 10y ago

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silvestrov 10y ago
If Ireland leaves EU then Ireland is no longer interesting for Apple (and other tech companies). Ireland is an entry to the full EU market. Ireland itself is a very small market compared to EU.
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Oletros 10y ago
Perhaps you got down voted because even if it has been explained a lot of times, the EC has no problem with Ireland competing with low tax rates. The case is not about low tax rates, the case is about an state (previously was Belgium and 35 EU companies) that give private and ad-hoc deals to some companies distorting the competition between companies And perhaps you got downvoted because saying that Ireland should leave the EU means that you have a poor knowledge of EU countries economies.
- vixen99 10y ago
  Alleged private and ad-hoc deals. Let's wait for the detailed facts to emerge.
  - Oletros 10y ago
    Alleged? It has been a ruling already
soneil 10y ago
That's incredibly unlikely, really. Firstly, and most notably, the EU is overwhelmingly popular in Ireland. (in the most recent eurobarometer I've seen, 2nd highest for "positive image of the EU" - http://ec.europa.eu/public_opinion/archives/eb/eb83/eb83_first_en.pdf http://ec.europa.eu/public_opinion/archives/eb/eb83/eb83_fir... ) Second, Ireland is a net recipient within the EU - we receive more than we give. And that doesn't even take the bailout into account. We honestly can't afford to turn that away. Third, the whole USP of Ireland's corporate-friendly approach is to give multinationals a "cheap, friendly foothold" in the EU. Instead taxing them heavily, we rely on attracting enough of them to balance it out (quantity vs quality). So the people don't want to leave the EU, and wouldn't benefit from it. The state don't want to, and wouldn't benefit from it. And the MNCs such a move would pretend to defend, don't want to and wouldn't benefit from it.

I made this same point the other day and got down voted for suggesting that Ireland may leave the EU over this.

by tmaly 10y ago

I made this same point the other day and got down voted for suggesting that Ireland may leave the EU over this.

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silvestrov 10y ago

If Ireland leaves EU then Ireland is no longer interesting for Apple (and other tech companies). Ireland is an entry to the full EU market. Ireland itself is a very small market compared to EU.

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Oletros 10y ago

Perhaps you got down voted because even if it has been explained a lot of times, the EC has no problem with Ireland competing with low tax rates. The case is not about low tax rates, the case is about an state (previously was Belgium and 35 EU companies) that give private and ad-hoc deals to some companies distorting the competition between companies And perhaps you got downvoted because saying that Ireland should leave the EU means that you have a poor knowledge of EU countries economies.

vixen99 10y ago
Alleged private and ad-hoc deals. Let's wait for the detailed facts to emerge.
- Oletros 10y ago
  Alleged? It has been a ruling already

soneil 10y ago

That's incredibly unlikely, really. Firstly, and most notably, the EU is overwhelmingly popular in Ireland. (in the most recent eurobarometer I've seen, 2nd highest for "positive image of the EU" - http://ec.europa.eu/public_opinion/archives/eb/eb83/eb83_first_en.pdf http://ec.europa.eu/public_opinion/archives/eb/eb83/eb83_fir... ) Second, Ireland is a net recipient within the EU - we receive more than we give. And that doesn't even take the bailout into account. We honestly can't afford to turn that away. Third, the whole USP of Ireland's corporate-friendly approach is to give multinationals a "cheap, friendly foothold" in the EU. Instead taxing them heavily, we rely on attracting enough of them to balance it out (quantity vs quality). So the people don't want to leave the EU, and wouldn't benefit from it. The state don't want to, and wouldn't benefit from it. And the MNCs such a move would pretend to defend, don't want to and wouldn't benefit from it.