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> "Current emissions are more than 25% below 1990 levels - can you say such thing about America, China or India?" Between 1990 and 2013, CO2 emissions in the U

> "Current emissions are more than 25% below 1990 levels - can you say such thing about America, China or India?" Between 1990 and 2013, CO2 emissions in the United states fell from 19.6 tons per capita to 16.6. That's around a 15.6% decrease. Russia had a drop of around 23.5% in the same time frame. China and India both had dramatic increases though. http://edgar.jrc.ec.europa.eu/overview.php?v=CO2ts_pc1990-2013 http://edgar.jrc.ec.europa.eu/overview.php?v=CO2ts_pc1990-20...

woodandsteel 10y ago
Russian emissions fell because the Soviet era industry base collapsed, not because of energy conservation or renewable energy production.
- yareally 10y ago
  Yeah, I would agree with that being the primary reason. I left out my reasoning for why it dropped since I didn't want to go looking up citations earlier this afternoon.
- ivan_gammel 10y ago
  It's just one side of the big picture. If the economy had never recovered, that would be the only cause. However, it surpassed 1990 levels long time ago and in last 25 years there was investment in industrial capacity too (steel, cement, electricity). And there are 3 times more cars now on the streets which are the biggest source of emissions in cities like Moscow, but Russia - the biggest automotive market in Europe btw - is gradually applying European emission standards (currently Euro-5, one step behind EU). There is industrial policy in place which favors environmentally friendly manufacturing and mining and it works better than in China (e.g. just few days ago the Supreme Court confirmed the position of Ministry of Environment to deny construction of large copper mine near Chelyabinsk, which could bring thousands of jobs, because it could harm the quality of water).
  - woodandsteel 10y ago
    I have been pretty critical here of Russian environmental policies, but I am glad to hear it is taking these positive steps.

woodandsteel 10y ago

Russian emissions fell because the Soviet era industry base collapsed, not because of energy conservation or renewable energy production.

yareally 10y ago
Yeah, I would agree with that being the primary reason. I left out my reasoning for why it dropped since I didn't want to go looking up citations earlier this afternoon.
ivan_gammel 10y ago
It's just one side of the big picture. If the economy had never recovered, that would be the only cause. However, it surpassed 1990 levels long time ago and in last 25 years there was investment in industrial capacity too (steel, cement, electricity). And there are 3 times more cars now on the streets which are the biggest source of emissions in cities like Moscow, but Russia - the biggest automotive market in Europe btw - is gradually applying European emission standards (currently Euro-5, one step behind EU). There is industrial policy in place which favors environmentally friendly manufacturing and mining and it works better than in China (e.g. just few days ago the Supreme Court confirmed the position of Ministry of Environment to deny construction of large copper mine near Chelyabinsk, which could bring thousands of jobs, because it could harm the quality of water).
- woodandsteel 10y ago
  I have been pretty critical here of Russian environmental policies, but I am glad to hear it is taking these positive steps.