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I said this somewhere else in this thread but just move to the Midwest. There is plenty of space and depending on where you want to live houses can be super che
by tdb7893 10y ago
I said this somewhere else in this thread but just move to the Midwest. There is plenty of space and depending on where you want to live houses can be super cheap.
- jdavis703 10y agoThere are many problems with moving to the Midwest. It's like someone suggesting moving to Puerto Rico to save on money since a place with a vastly different culture is not simply interchangeable (and I'm saying this as someone who has lived all over the U.S.). Edit: for the downvotes lets remember that Puerto Rico is part of the U.S. and that Puerto Ricans are American (i.e. estadounidense).
- kesselvon 10y agoYou can have most of the amenities of coastal urban life in places like Chicago; which even has its own coast and doesn't have the outrageous COL that places like San Francisco, LA, or NYC have. Sure you're not going to make the same crazy salaries, but you're also not spending 5k for a 1br apartment in the Mission
- jdavis703 10y agoWhat would you spend for a nice apartment by good transit?
- fovc 10y agoMy peer group just out of college in consulting paid $1000 - $1600 for nice places. Low end of the range would be shared with 2-3 others and maybe 40 min outside the loop. High-end would be for a 1BR 15-20 min out. You could also live in West Loop (think lofts) in brand new places for even less
- jdavis703 10y agoI imagine that heating and electric adds a couple hundred though? (in CA I pay about $20/month for gas/electric, but remember paying hundreds when I lived back east).
- vonmoltke 10y ago> in CA I pay about $20/month for gas/electric How the hell do you pay so little? I pay $25/month just to have a gas connection.
- jdavis703 10y agoI'm rarely home and have a small studio apartment. I don't have AC (most homes I know don't have it in Oakland), and there's almost no point in running fans when I'm gone.
- vonmoltke 10y agoThat's my point. I could leave my house for a month, shut off everything that uses electricity and gas, and still have to pay more than twice what you pay just in connection charges. Do utilities in California just not charge flat rates for connections?
- tcoppi 10y agoI've also lived all over the US, and the culture difference between NY or SF and nowhere, ID is, many times, less than the difference can be between many places in the US and Canada.
- jdavis703 10y agoI suppose a lot of that depends on your ethnic background. I've been to places and been like, "woah I just stepped in to the 1950s." Certainly not everywhere (Chicago comes to mind) are like this, but again Chicago is also a pretty expensive city.
- pnathan 10y agoFar too many race and culture issues in the Midwest IMO. Not to mention lack of software jobs & economy propped up by ag cycles & federal farm bills. Lots of articles about the issues in rural America, won't repeat them here. Much rather live in Seattle, NYC, Boston, etc. Much better living, profoundly more jobs (both in number and variety), far better culture, better politics, much more environmentally friendly.
- amyjess 10y agoI live and work in the suburbs of Dallas. I'm also an openly LGBT Jew, and nobody gives me any problem. And the large Asian populations (Chinese, Indian, and Korean especially) in the suburbs here shows that lots of people of other races choose to live here over other places in the country. It's debatable over whether or not North Texas counts as "the midwest" (really, Texas can be divided into five sections, which go into separate regions), but I like to think of it as such. We're in Tornado Alley, and most of Dallas feels like a typical middle-American suburb.
- pnathan 10y agoI am pretty sure everyone agrees Texas is a different country. ;-) TBH I've heard Texas has a pleasingly libertarian vibe about many personal choices, but you are required to love HS football.