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> Hire a designer to make Lumina less ugly. Sorry I know that sounds harsh, but it looks very 2005. I'm not trying to sound harsh and just have to respectfully

by cm3 10y ago

> Hire a designer to make Lumina less ugly. Sorry I know that sounds harsh, but it looks very 2005. I'm not trying to sound harsh and just have to respectfully disagree. I don't use Lumina because I don't use DEs, but the looks of it are just right. It's not a regression like most "styles" these days where it's impossible to know half the time what's an interactive widget, or why suddenly the designers think large empty white spaces and large widgets and titlebars are a feature. If I'm at a desktop, I need a desktop environment, not a tablet experience.

Gracana 10y ago
I don't want it to look like modern stuff, but it could use some tweaking and usability consistency improvements here and there. It's the whole 'papercuts' thing, nothing terrible, just a bunch of small issues (font sizes, click target issues, etc.)
- cm3 10y ago
  Polish is probably what you're missing then.
  - buu700 10y ago
    My first language is English, and from the screenshots in the TrueOS handbook I'd also agree that it looks a little dated (although not particularly more so than most other open source desktop environments).
    - asveikau 10y ago
      >> Polish is probably what you're missing then. > My first language is English, Did you just mix up polish, as in "polished ui", with Polish, the language of Poland?
      - buu700 10y ago
        Yes.
        mrSugar 10y ago
        Hopefully he doesn't also think that a totem pole is a guy from Poland who looks after a totem. :-)
      - type0 10y ago
        Also, we all need to be using polish notation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_notation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_notation for better good
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Osmium 10y ago
> I don't use Lumina because I don't use DEs [...] In fairness, that probably means your preferences will be very different from those people who actually do use desktop environments. I also think a lot of people (myself included) have a certain nostalgia for older, leaner desktop environments. That doesn't mean they can't be designed better, with more polish, using those same older design cues.
- wruza 10y ago
  I failed to see how control panel was any better in each 95/xp/7/10, except that my enemies can't find anything in it just like me. I also fail to see how w7 explorer became more 'convenient' without up button (and changing backspace key to back) but with annoying Libraries that are not even folders. Or removal of quick launch, so that icons on our taskbars now float and you search for a button to start that app. What you call polishing is just breaking familiar old-simple and building new-super-innovated-final-solution each year. Leave us power users alone, you hipsters!
  - creshal 10y ago
    > What you call polishing is just breaking familiar old-simple and building new-super-innovated-final-solution each year. Leave us power users alone, you hipsters! I wish it was only confusing to power users. If it was actually intuitive to end users, it would have a justification. But no. I've yet to see a single user who can wrap their head around Windows 7's virtual libraries and why they're sometimes not acting like a real folder but most of the time do.
- fnj 10y ago
  Well, I do use a DE (MATE), and I think the appearance of Lumina DE is just fine. What kind of "polish" do you find missing?

by cm3 10y ago

Gracana 10y ago

I don't want it to look like modern stuff, but it could use some tweaking and usability consistency improvements here and there. It's the whole 'papercuts' thing, nothing terrible, just a bunch of small issues (font sizes, click target issues, etc.)

cm3 10y ago
Polish is probably what you're missing then.
- buu700 10y ago
  My first language is English, and from the screenshots in the TrueOS handbook I'd also agree that it looks a little dated (although not particularly more so than most other open source desktop environments).
  - asveikau 10y ago
    >> Polish is probably what you're missing then. > My first language is English, Did you just mix up polish, as in "polished ui", with Polish, the language of Poland?
    - buu700 10y ago
      Yes.
      - mrSugar 10y ago
        Hopefully he doesn't also think that a totem pole is a guy from Poland who looks after a totem. :-)
    - type0 10y ago
      Also, we all need to be using polish notation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_notation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_notation for better good

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Osmium 10y ago

> I don't use Lumina because I don't use DEs [...] In fairness, that probably means your preferences will be very different from those people who actually do use desktop environments. I also think a lot of people (myself included) have a certain nostalgia for older, leaner desktop environments. That doesn't mean they can't be designed better, with more polish, using those same older design cues.

wruza 10y ago
I failed to see how control panel was any better in each 95/xp/7/10, except that my enemies can't find anything in it just like me. I also fail to see how w7 explorer became more 'convenient' without up button (and changing backspace key to back) but with annoying Libraries that are not even folders. Or removal of quick launch, so that icons on our taskbars now float and you search for a button to start that app. What you call polishing is just breaking familiar old-simple and building new-super-innovated-final-solution each year. Leave us power users alone, you hipsters!
- creshal 10y ago
  > What you call polishing is just breaking familiar old-simple and building new-super-innovated-final-solution each year. Leave us power users alone, you hipsters! I wish it was only confusing to power users. If it was actually intuitive to end users, it would have a justification. But no. I've yet to see a single user who can wrap their head around Windows 7's virtual libraries and why they're sometimes not acting like a real folder but most of the time do.
fnj 10y ago
Well, I do use a DE (MATE), and I think the appearance of Lumina DE is just fine. What kind of "polish" do you find missing?