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Anecdote to anecdote but "... Or people who are not good at self-promoting. Or people who are punished for self-promoting (Women)." is pure conjecture that does

Anecdote to anecdote but "... Or people who are not good at self-promoting. Or people who are punished for self-promoting (Women)." is pure conjecture that doesn't align with the results I've seen in industry. What's to stop a high performer from becoming an entrepreneur (thus interacting with the market more directly)? The Google engineers making >300k /annual are definitely an order of magnitude more skilled than the Java dev making 75k in my experience. Despite the rhetoric, high performance is linked to pay if the employee does basic due diligence in job shopping. EDIT reply to child comment since I can't post to this thread anymore: Do you make that much money because you were highly assertive or are you highly skilled? I'm sure it's the latter, Google wouldn't be paying you that much if you weren't worth it. > And there's a million reasons for why a high-performing IC should not become an entrepreneur. Indeed, but it is an option, as is raising your skill level to the point where you can work at Google. > Speaking of Google... It's found that equally capable women are routinely under-rewarded, as they rarely nominate themselves for promotion. [1] Not receiving a promotion they didn't ask for does not sound like a problem in any way. We're talking about adults not children, if you want something, ask for it.

vkou 10y ago
http://www.glassceiling.com/being-assertive-can-be-costly-for-women/ http://www.glassceiling.com/being-assertive-can-be-costly-fo... Fortunately for the average woman, you don't see any problems - I suppose that means that they don't exist. And there's a million reasons for why a high-performing IC should not become an entrepreneur. -A just-shy-of 300K Google engineer. Speaking of Google... It's found that equally capable women are routinely under-rewarded, as they rarely nominate themselves for promotion. [1] This is a problem - why women don't ask for promotion is not relevant to this conversation. What is relevant is that I just gave an example of a group that benefits from homogenized compensation... And said group is not composed of talent-less layabouts. [1] http://www.wnyc.org/story/google-test-case-gender-bias/ http://www.wnyc.org/story/google-test-case-gender-bias/
- runT1ME 10y ago
  >What is relevant is that I just gave an example of a group that benefits from homogenized compensation. They don't benefit from a homogenized compensation plan, it just means others don't benefit more than they do from a non-homogenized plan. It's like saying the solution to racial bias in judicial proceedings is just make sure everyone is always found guilty.
- jokr9 10y ago
  Here comes the feminazi. Do you have single mother by any chance?

vkou 10y ago

http://www.glassceiling.com/being-assertive-can-be-costly-for-women/ http://www.glassceiling.com/being-assertive-can-be-costly-fo... Fortunately for the average woman, you don't see any problems - I suppose that means that they don't exist. And there's a million reasons for why a high-performing IC should not become an entrepreneur. -A just-shy-of 300K Google engineer. Speaking of Google... It's found that equally capable women are routinely under-rewarded, as they rarely nominate themselves for promotion. [1] This is a problem - why women don't ask for promotion is not relevant to this conversation. What is relevant is that I just gave an example of a group that benefits from homogenized compensation... And said group is not composed of talent-less layabouts. [1] http://www.wnyc.org/story/google-test-case-gender-bias/ http://www.wnyc.org/story/google-test-case-gender-bias/

runT1ME 10y ago
>What is relevant is that I just gave an example of a group that benefits from homogenized compensation. They don't benefit from a homogenized compensation plan, it just means others don't benefit more than they do from a non-homogenized plan. It's like saying the solution to racial bias in judicial proceedings is just make sure everyone is always found guilty.
jokr9 10y ago
Here comes the feminazi. Do you have single mother by any chance?