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I doubt Apple is spending much money to stop jailbreakers. They just don't make it easy. In most cases these jailbreak methods are exploiting unrelated bugs to
by jsz0 17y ago
I doubt Apple is spending much money to stop jailbreakers. They just don't make it easy. In most cases these jailbreak methods are exploiting unrelated bugs to get root access on the phone. Stuff Apple has to fix. For example: The 2.x Safari jailbreak method. If you look at other closed platforms like gaming consoles you can see some serious anti-cracking efforts. The Xbox 360 for example has a very sophisticated security system. Microsoft scans devices for known exploits and even bans them from Xbox Live for life if found. Apple could make iTunes check the device for modifications. They could force the device to constantly report back to Apple and report a modified device. They could ban the device from accessing the App Store. All things considered Apple isn't going overboard to stop jailbreaking. I would guess it's just folded into the iPhone OS security team's normal day to day work.
- dbz 17y agoWhat happened to privacy?
- gloob 17y agoPeople didn't care.
- jrockway 17y agoThey could do that. They could also go out of business if they keep harming their customers like that.
- semanticist 17y agoMicrosoft are still selling X-Boxes.
- jrockway 17y agoAt a loss.
- edmccaffrey 17y agoNot for two years; and please provide your data showing they were losing money because of banning modders, and not because they were keeping the price below what it costs to develop, market and produce the system in order to gain market penetration.
- buster 17y agoAnd Ikea sells furniture. Where does that tablet vs gaming console comparison come from?
- jsz0 17y agoThe iPad and gaming consoles share the same closed ecosystem, tight control of hardware, etc.
- buster 17y agoGaming consoles are made for a single purpose: buy a game, play the game, done. smartphones, tablets and PCs have much more use cases and the manufacturer wants to make me believe i can do "everything" with it. Oh wait, no, i can't.
- benologist 17y agoWhat about the bit where they're trying to make it illegal?
- GHFigs 17y agoMyth. The methods used are already illegal under existing copyright law. The idea that they were trying to get it made illegal comes from the EFF's attempt to get it specifically exempted (i.e. made legal). There is a triennial process for getting such exemptions made, which the EFF in 2006 called "fundamentally broken", but yet returned to participating in in 2009. Apple objected (using that same process) on the grounds that that the EFF's proposal did not meet the criteria required by that process. The EFF reported that as if Apple were trying to get the law changed, but it was in fact the EFF proposing a change. And from there the myth spread. Even if you agree with the EFF, it's not accurate to say that anybody is trying to get it made illegal. To be frank, I don't agree with the EFF, but here I'm just trying to correct the facts. I would link to the specific documents, but the Copyright Office site appears to be down. If you're interested, look for the DMCA 2009 rulemaking comments and responses.
- benologist 17y agoThanks for clarifying it for me.
- orangecat 17y agoThe EFF reported that as if Apple were trying to get the law changed, but it was in fact the EFF proposing a change. I don't see that. The EFF's statement at http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/02/apple-says-jailbreaking-illegal http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/02/apple-says-jailbreaking... agrees with your account: they asked the Copyright Office for an exemption for jailbreaking (which probably is illegal under the DMCA), and Apple responded saying that jailbreaking is and should remain illegal. To be frank, I don't agree with the EFF Really. So anyone who jailbreaks their iPhone should be considered a criminal?
- GHFigs 17y ago
- ROFISH 17y agoThe biggest proponent I see for Apple wanting to stop jailbreaking is app piracy, which I heard was a big deal, especially around the decent $10 games from companies you've heard of (EA, etc.). Personally I'm on the side of the fence that would rather have no homebrew or jailbreak if it prevents piracy, but I'm sure others would disagree with me.
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