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How Russia Often Benefits When Julian Assange Reveals the West’s Secrets

16 points by e15ctr0n 10y ago

aburan28 10y ago
This is a duplicate but still it amazes me how a story with no actual facts substantiating the claims made can make it to NYTimes front page. This is at best a conspiracy theory and if anything these leaks strengthen our Democracy
- zghst 10y ago
  Clinton money reaches far
dpweb 10y ago
Nothing against her personally but sadly with Mrs Clinton as president we are likely looking at more confrontation with Russia. Clearly the theme being promoted is that Russia needs to be confronted. A number of articles are promoting this agenda. Maybe our time could be spent more productively. Americans may think we have more serious problems domestically. I think some see in Putin, maybe not #1 good guy but someone who could be dealt with even tolerated, while we focus on more pressing issues facing the country.
- woodandsteel 10y ago
  The problem is that Putin is not just a nasty guy domestically, but also has made clear he wants to recover as much of the international power of the old Soviet Union, and the only way he can accomplish that is to take over or bring under his influence a lot of his neighbors. Or are you one of those people who think that every time the US gets in a conflict with some other power, it always the US's fault?
woodandsteel 10y ago
I wonder what Assange's economic philosophy is. Is he a socialist? That would explain why he is so convinced the capitalist US is the main danger in the world today. I have noticed that many socialists are friendly toward Putin's Russia, even though it is very far from being socialist, because it's the US's enemy. On the other hand, he claims to be opposed to all big, oppressive governments. So is he a libertarian? But then he would be friendlier toward the US than Russia. Maybe he doesn't have an economic philosophy. But that would be crazy, because econmics is so important for so many things involving human well-being. Anybody know where Assange stands on this?
- ramblerman 10y ago
  Why do people always look for a motive in his 'latest' leak. Democrats turned on him when he leaks Clinton's emails so he must be pro trump (As stupidly demonstrated by Bill Maher in his interview) The assumption seems to be that he has perfect information on everybody in the world and is cherry picking for some grand motive. I think he just publicizes what he can get his hands on, and there isn't much more to it than that.
  - woodandsteel 10y ago
    I don't assume we should automatically trust or distrust him. The problem is I just don't understand enough about his motivations to decide whether or not to trust him. The reason I am asking about his economic philosophy is it often influences people's decisions on matters of public importance, like releasing information to the public. If I understood his economic philosophy, it might help me understand his motives and so whether or not to trust him. On the other hand, it might not help. And you have to admit, he's a unique individual. Aren't you at all curious to understand him?

16 points by e15ctr0n 10y ago

This is a duplicate but still it amazes me how a story with no actual facts substantiating the claims made can make it to NYTimes front page. This is at best a conspiracy theory and if anything these leaks strengthen our Democracy

zghst 10y ago
Clinton money reaches far

dpweb 10y ago

Nothing against her personally but sadly with Mrs Clinton as president we are likely looking at more confrontation with Russia. Clearly the theme being promoted is that Russia needs to be confronted. A number of articles are promoting this agenda. Maybe our time could be spent more productively. Americans may think we have more serious problems domestically. I think some see in Putin, maybe not #1 good guy but someone who could be dealt with even tolerated, while we focus on more pressing issues facing the country.

woodandsteel 10y ago
The problem is that Putin is not just a nasty guy domestically, but also has made clear he wants to recover as much of the international power of the old Soviet Union, and the only way he can accomplish that is to take over or bring under his influence a lot of his neighbors. Or are you one of those people who think that every time the US gets in a conflict with some other power, it always the US's fault?

woodandsteel 10y ago

I wonder what Assange's economic philosophy is. Is he a socialist? That would explain why he is so convinced the capitalist US is the main danger in the world today. I have noticed that many socialists are friendly toward Putin's Russia, even though it is very far from being socialist, because it's the US's enemy. On the other hand, he claims to be opposed to all big, oppressive governments. So is he a libertarian? But then he would be friendlier toward the US than Russia. Maybe he doesn't have an economic philosophy. But that would be crazy, because econmics is so important for so many things involving human well-being. Anybody know where Assange stands on this?

ramblerman 10y ago
Why do people always look for a motive in his 'latest' leak. Democrats turned on him when he leaks Clinton's emails so he must be pro trump (As stupidly demonstrated by Bill Maher in his interview) The assumption seems to be that he has perfect information on everybody in the world and is cherry picking for some grand motive. I think he just publicizes what he can get his hands on, and there isn't much more to it than that.
- woodandsteel 10y ago
  I don't assume we should automatically trust or distrust him. The problem is I just don't understand enough about his motivations to decide whether or not to trust him. The reason I am asking about his economic philosophy is it often influences people's decisions on matters of public importance, like releasing information to the public. If I understood his economic philosophy, it might help me understand his motives and so whether or not to trust him. On the other hand, it might not help. And you have to admit, he's a unique individual. Aren't you at all curious to understand him?