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Okay, but understand that your entire comment can be translated to "I don't actually want capitalism." Do you understand my point now? You can't have fair corp
by jsmthrowaway 10y ago
Okay, but understand that your entire comment can be translated to "I don't actually want capitalism." Do you understand my point now?
You can't have fair corporate expectations and capitalism. They are mutually exclusive and every case of corporate leadership trading value for moral causes can likely be successfully fought on fiduciary grounds. Capitalism is not aggressive. It just is. The incentives are created in a certain way. This is like saying you'd rather play chess if there was a third color; there's nothing wrong with wanting to play that game instead, but let's not call it chess any more. Dig it?
I don't even disagree with you entirely (again: liberal! Look at me typing this conservative wet dream!), I'd just rather see you make the anticapitalist case as opposed to appealing to morals.
If you ran a corporation in the United States and volunteered to pay more taxes on moral grounds you'd very likely be in breach of fiduciary duty if someone pressed the issue. That's what I'm saying. We have built a certain house and we can debate whether it's a good house, but we also can't be surprised and morally outraged when the incentives of the system are followed to their extremes.
- blub 10y agoI don't think that the system must be in a certain way. We should not be too dogmatic about what capitalism is, but rather ask ourselves what is desirable for a healthy society and work toward achieveing that. Fair corporate expectations and capitalism are not mutually exclusive. If the result will not be called "capitalism" is not so important for me. I don't want to make an anti-capitalist case, because I am not opposed to it, but rather certain aspects and behaviors. I think you're arguing that those are intrinsic parts of capitalism.