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I believe Steve Jobs has a patent on inappropriate uses of the word "insane" and its inflections. Anyway, the HP actually seems better for most things. The AMD

I believe Steve Jobs has a patent on inappropriate uses of the word "insane" and its inflections. Anyway, the HP actually seems better for most things. The AMD processor seems to cost a bit more than Intel. Aside from that, I won't compare them. mac: 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo 2GB memory 200GB hard drive1 Double-layer SuperDrive NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT with 256MB hp: Turion 64 X2 TL-62 Memory Size: 3GB Dual Layer DVD RW Capacity: 250GB Unspecified, probably crappy, video card.

mrtron 19y ago
Some additional facts that are highly relevant to price point: 3MB shared L2 on the MB, 2x512 on the HP Macbooks, let alone the pro, have dvi out, which is a must for most people, and the HP doesn't. The HP is about the size of 2 macbook pros in terms of thickness. The HP's horrible vid card and screen gives it a resolution of 1280x800 on a 15 inch screen. The Pro you are comparing has 1440x900 on the same sized screen. I realize I am coming off as sounding fanboyish, but that is not my intention. I fully realize Macs are not priced very low, but these crappy HPs and Dells are nowhere near the quality of components.
- neilc 19y ago
  Macbooks only have mini-DVI out. You need an adapter to get DVI output.
  - RyanGWU82 19y ago
    But that adapter is only $19. It's nearly impossible to get DVI output from most non-Mac laptops, no matter how much you spend.
    - neilc 19y ago
      Wow, I never realized that, but it seems you're correct. I wonder why in the world more laptops don't support DVI?
      - mrtron 19y ago
        Most laptops don't have a good video card. Macbooks have the small connector because the large connector is too large in form factor for a laptop (well maybe not that huge HP :P). So other laptops would have to do something similar, but perhaps apple patented the mini-dvi port?
        neilc 19y ago
        I guess form factor could be a major part of it, although the 15" MBP does support DVI. And there are lots of laptops with decent non-integrated video cards but no DVI support -- support for DVI isn't exactly a high-end video card feature, after al.

mrtron 19y ago

Some additional facts that are highly relevant to price point: 3MB shared L2 on the MB, 2x512 on the HP Macbooks, let alone the pro, have dvi out, which is a must for most people, and the HP doesn't. The HP is about the size of 2 macbook pros in terms of thickness. The HP's horrible vid card and screen gives it a resolution of 1280x800 on a 15 inch screen. The Pro you are comparing has 1440x900 on the same sized screen. I realize I am coming off as sounding fanboyish, but that is not my intention. I fully realize Macs are not priced very low, but these crappy HPs and Dells are nowhere near the quality of components.

neilc 19y ago
Macbooks only have mini-DVI out. You need an adapter to get DVI output.
- RyanGWU82 19y ago
  But that adapter is only $19. It's nearly impossible to get DVI output from most non-Mac laptops, no matter how much you spend.
  - neilc 19y ago
    Wow, I never realized that, but it seems you're correct. I wonder why in the world more laptops don't support DVI?
    - mrtron 19y ago
      Most laptops don't have a good video card. Macbooks have the small connector because the large connector is too large in form factor for a laptop (well maybe not that huge HP :P). So other laptops would have to do something similar, but perhaps apple patented the mini-dvi port?
      - neilc 19y ago
        I guess form factor could be a major part of it, although the 15" MBP does support DVI. And there are lots of laptops with decent non-integrated video cards but no DVI support -- support for DVI isn't exactly a high-end video card feature, after al.