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The problem is at least partly societal. A large portion of life is made up of social interaction, and men and women have very different experiences of this. Pe
by booleandilemma 10y ago
The problem is at least partly societal. A large portion of life is made up of social interaction, and men and women have very different experiences of this. People are generally nicer to women. Men are treated as being less important than women (think: women and children first). With this in mind, it's not surprising men are more likely to kill themselves.
- nilved 10y ago> People are generally nicer to women. This sentence is a lot more contentious than you let on.
- cloakandswagger 10y agoI can only offer anecdotal evidence (I don't know how you'd even begin to measure this), but it's absolutely true that your average person is more likely to jump to the defense of a woman, or be more appalled at violence or injustice perpetrated against a woman. Violence against men seems to be much easier for society to stomach, probably due to frequency and the perception that a man is stronger/tougher and should be able to protect himself.
- zpharer 10y agoTo hear it from my female friends, they have to put up with a lot of bullshit that men don't have to deal with.
- narag 10y agoMales bear the burden of a lot of aggresivity hormones. That and the fact males are stronger would explain men commit more violent crimes, hurt women more often than the other way around and also suicide more often. I don't think men are treated as less important. The "women and children first" is more of a societal compensation for the fact that men can go first because we're, on average, stronger and more aggresive.
- antisthenes 10y ago> we're, on average, stronger and more aggresive. And more disposable. Anyone who's even tangentially familiar with sexual dimorphism, selection and Bateman's principle can recognize why females enjoy favorable treatment in that regard.
- ahoka 10y agoThis is plain misandrism and should have no place on HN.
- narag 10y agoIf it's sarcasm, it whooshed over my head.
- erroneousfunk 10y agoMinor point, but "women and children first" is mostly a romantic fiction, with couple important historic occurrences (like the Titanic, obviously) which kind of cemented it in popular culture, if not in "actual practiced fact". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_and_children_first https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_and_children_first