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Not everyone has a choice, for example if you had kids at the time then living in your car would be unacceptable. Meanwhile, restaurant patrons make a choice to
by drewrv 10y ago
Not everyone has a choice, for example if you had kids at the time then living in your car would be unacceptable. Meanwhile, restaurant patrons make a choice to eat somewhere where tipping is customary.
- jsmith0295 10y agoIf you had kids then you wouldn't need to live in your car because the government would volunteer to pay your rent.
- drewrv 10y agoGreat news for the 2.5 million homeless kids in the US. http://www.dailynews.com/social-affairs/20141117/homeless-children-increasing-in-southern-california http://www.dailynews.com/social-affairs/20141117/homeless-ch...
- jsmith0295 10y agoYeah, that was a stupid comment. My experience was basically that while living on a minimum wage job my coworkers who had kids were way better off than the rest of us. Agitating because they were the people who really seemed to care the least. Even with their kids they only wanted to do the bare minimum. Clearly that isn't always the case though, thalami you for pointing that out
- michaelmrose 10y agoIts nice that you think its that easy. People who have never been poor for very long seem to bizarrely overestimate the welfare state. Most people that fall into financial hardship can either pay the same bills you do or end up homeless. Some portion of the long term disadvantaged can eventually find their way into programs to help them out after years of waiting.
- jsmith0295 10y agoMy experience with it first hand was that people I had worked with who had kids had a higher standard living than I did, and couldn't have been struggling that much since they still had money for cigarettes alcohol and weed, whereas I would barely be able to pay my rent and eat and couldn't afford air conditioning. I'm sure that isn't always the case though, I've probably just had an unusually bad experience with the people I've happened to know.
- rubicon33 10y agoWas it not your choice to have the kids? I'm tired of this cultural excuse of "what about the kids!" If you chose to have kids, either explicitly, or through choice of recklessness, you deserve to own up to your decision. If you can't, or won't, that's what CPS is for. Let's stop giving people excuses just because they brought another person into the world. In fact, lets hold them to an even higher standard for choosing to invoke a LIFE without themselves being able to support it.
- admax88q 10y agoIt may not have been your choice to get fired from the job you had back when you decided you were stable enough to have kids. Jesus you're a prick.
- rubicon33 10y agoGuess what asshole, if you are so unstable in your existence that simply losing your job would mean you cant take care of your kids, THEN YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE KIDS.
- michaelmrose 10y agoPeoples situation changes in ways that can be hard to predict. People die. People get sick. People get divorced. Peoples family members become ill. People run into expensive legal issues. People have unplanned pregnancies and aren't willing to abort. Most of the US isn't in financial position to weather more than temporary hardship without shit falling apart. Other countries deal with this by providing a safety net paid for by the increased earnings of all those who don't crash and burn and thus contribute in the end far more to society. People who hold views like yours instead waste their breath telling others that they shouldn't pursue the single strongest biological imperative. In sane societies people that make an effort to contribute to society ARE stable enough to have kids. Your view is warped by our warped society.
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