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Because they forced people to "link" an account with their real name to accounts that had always previously used pseudonyms (Gmail, YouTube). And the penalty fo

Because they forced people to "link" an account with their real name to accounts that had always previously used pseudonyms (Gmail, YouTube). And the penalty for not doing it, or putting a fake name in Google+, was deletion of all your accounts. Because while you were perfectly fine for years before, suddenly your "Google Account" (a thing nobody asked for or wanted) was in violation of the Google+ terms of service you didn't have the option not to agree to. Even worse, particularly for YouTube users, the first version of this "integration" didn't respect at all that a YouTube channel is not a person, and a person is not a YouTube channel. (It's a many-to-many relationship, morons.) And when they forced Google+ comments on YouTube channels, the damned thing didn't even slightly work correctly. Basically, they unforgivably fucked-up their own product and made all of their most engaged users hate them with a passion. Honestly, it's a miracle they didn't get more bad press for that shitstorm. Apparently, it's now possible to once again have a YouTube or Gmail account without associating it with a Google+ account. But of course for people who lived through that campaign of awfulness, there's no way to undo the damage and get my Gmail and YouTube accounts back the way they were before Google+ fucked them over in the first place. --- For what it's worth, I'm not a Facebook user. I wasn't prior to Google+ and I'm not now. So maybe I'm the freak. But I don't think I'm alone in my opinion of Google+ or the sheer incompetence of its rollout.

gazarr 10y ago
This. Google+ was/is shit that was force fed to combine google/YouTube/picasa/other accounts. Circles was just stupid. I dont know how to make a better Facebook, but hey try harder.
CaptSpify 10y ago
I still have a youtube account that's linked to my google account, and I can't unlink them. I never wanted that, but, thanks Google, for doing it "for my own good". I don't use Google+ out of principle because of this. And that's sad, because I really wanted them to beat out FB.
- glenstein 10y ago
  I did too. In the face of so much for will, there was a lot of forced movement on accounts, real names, comments sections which left people disoriented and angry. I also think making an incredibly careful integration of Google Reader, the one social network they did right, would have helped (though not cancelling it would have been best of all). I still wish they simply evolved Google Reader into a fully fledged social network.
  - glenstein 10y ago
    >In the face of so much for will Oops, that should be good will, not for will.
- blakeyrat 10y ago
  I have some weird giant conglomeration of accounts all linked together that I don't know how to fix because in addition to the complaints I made upthread, Google's also terrible at usability and nobody understands how any of their shit works. I think I have these accounts: * Personal Gmail * Professional Gmail * Google+ account somehow auto-generated from personal Gmail even though I've never (on purpose, anyway) used Google+ * Google+ account somehow auto-generated from professional Gmail * YouTube channel A * YouTube channel B * YouTube channel somehow auto-generated to match with my professional Gmail even though I've never to my knowledge used YouTube from that account at all? * Some weird random Google+ page that seems to have come from nowhere for no reason, but it shows up anyway if I go into Google and click "my accounts". (Possibly generated by "logging into" Chrome, which I foolishly did once? Who knows.) And I'm terrified to even try and fix the situation because I know a single wrong click and they'll delete all my YouTube videos, or all my emails. And, natch, there's ZERO customer support for this, but why would you expect that from Google. I'd pay $50 to get all this shit fixed back to the way it was before Google fucked it all over in the first place. Seriously. I just want separate accounts for separate email addresses and separate YouTube channels. I never wanted them consolidated in the goddamned first place.

gazarr 10y ago

This. Google+ was/is shit that was force fed to combine google/YouTube/picasa/other accounts. Circles was just stupid. I dont know how to make a better Facebook, but hey try harder.

CaptSpify 10y ago

I still have a youtube account that's linked to my google account, and I can't unlink them. I never wanted that, but, thanks Google, for doing it "for my own good". I don't use Google+ out of principle because of this. And that's sad, because I really wanted them to beat out FB.

glenstein 10y ago
I did too. In the face of so much for will, there was a lot of forced movement on accounts, real names, comments sections which left people disoriented and angry. I also think making an incredibly careful integration of Google Reader, the one social network they did right, would have helped (though not cancelling it would have been best of all). I still wish they simply evolved Google Reader into a fully fledged social network.
- glenstein 10y ago
  >In the face of so much for will Oops, that should be good will, not for will.
blakeyrat 10y ago
I have some weird giant conglomeration of accounts all linked together that I don't know how to fix because in addition to the complaints I made upthread, Google's also terrible at usability and nobody understands how any of their shit works. I think I have these accounts: * Personal Gmail * Professional Gmail * Google+ account somehow auto-generated from personal Gmail even though I've never (on purpose, anyway) used Google+ * Google+ account somehow auto-generated from professional Gmail * YouTube channel A * YouTube channel B * YouTube channel somehow auto-generated to match with my professional Gmail even though I've never to my knowledge used YouTube from that account at all? * Some weird random Google+ page that seems to have come from nowhere for no reason, but it shows up anyway if I go into Google and click "my accounts". (Possibly generated by "logging into" Chrome, which I foolishly did once? Who knows.) And I'm terrified to even try and fix the situation because I know a single wrong click and they'll delete all my YouTube videos, or all my emails. And, natch, there's ZERO customer support for this, but why would you expect that from Google. I'd pay $50 to get all this shit fixed back to the way it was before Google fucked it all over in the first place. Seriously. I just want separate accounts for separate email addresses and separate YouTube channels. I never wanted them consolidated in the goddamned first place.