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This video of a panel discussion at a conf was interesting to me: Video: C++, Rust, D and Go: Panel at LangNext '14: http://jugad2.blogspot.in/2016/08/video-c

by vram22 10y ago

This video of a panel discussion at a conf was interesting to me: Video: C++, Rust, D and Go: Panel at LangNext '14: http://jugad2.blogspot.in/2016/08/video-c-rust-d-and-go-panel-at-langnext.html http://jugad2.blogspot.in/2016/08/video-c-rust-d-and-go-pane... Key team members or inventors of those languages, speak.

steveklabnik 10y ago
Standard disclaimer: It's been a while since I watched that video, but this was before Rust 1.0, and so all statements about Rust in it should be taken with a grain of salt. Lots changed.
- SamReidHughes 10y ago
  Not in any way that was pertinent.
  - steveklabnik 10y ago
    Great, I will stop worrying about that, then. I'd actually been meaning to re-watch this specifically to double check for a while.
- vram22 10y ago
  Good point, and I suppose some of the same may be the case about the other languages as well. My own disclaimer, though it shouldn't really be needed: I only put the link out of interest. No points to make.
  - steveklabnik 10y ago
    Definitely didn't assume you were. Because there was so much interest in Rust pre-1.0, there's a lot of outdated material out there, and so it can confuse people. https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/14954 https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/14954 specifically was a huuuuge headache for a long time. This is slowly changing, of course, the farther we get away from 1.0. I still worry about it, though.
    - vram22 10y ago
      Cool. Then it's good that you're raising these points.
    - qznc 10y ago
      D has a similar problem. There is quite some outdated material on D1 out there. :)
      - vram22 10y ago
        Yes. There are pages that start with dlang.org/phobos/... and others that start with dlang.org/library/... I need to confirm but I think the "Phobos" ones are for the current library of D(ver)2 and "library" ones are for Tango, a different library that diverged from the standard one during the D1 days - something like that. I think I read that they have later sort of unified again, either that, or Tango is obsolete or less recommended. Maybe others who know more can comment.
        qznc 10y ago
        Everything on dlang.org is fine. The phobos/ and library/ sections are two versions of the same content, generated from the same source files at the same time. The library/ stuff is the future, but not completely polished yet. The obsolete stuff is dsource.org. Most of it does not compile anymore and has no maintainers. If you are looking for libraries to use, go to https://code.dlang.org/ https://code.dlang.org/. Phobos is the standard library. Tango is a D1 projects. Most of it has been ported and integrated into Phobos now. Some people still like the Tango XML library: https://github.com/SiegeLord/Tango-D2 https://github.com/SiegeLord/Tango-D2
        vram22 10y ago
        Wow, didn't know that stuff. Thanks for explaining.
        vram22 10y ago
        After reading your comment I googled a bit and found this thread, which was somewhat interesting (2012), as also its linked /r/programming thread: https://semitwist.com/articles/article/view/dispelling-common-d-myths https://semitwist.com/articles/article/view/dispelling-commo... https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/118y4m/dispelling_common_d_myths/ https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/118y4m/dispell...

by vram22 10y ago

steveklabnik 10y ago

Standard disclaimer: It's been a while since I watched that video, but this was before Rust 1.0, and so all statements about Rust in it should be taken with a grain of salt. Lots changed.

SamReidHughes 10y ago
Not in any way that was pertinent.
- steveklabnik 10y ago
  Great, I will stop worrying about that, then. I'd actually been meaning to re-watch this specifically to double check for a while.
vram22 10y ago
Good point, and I suppose some of the same may be the case about the other languages as well. My own disclaimer, though it shouldn't really be needed: I only put the link out of interest. No points to make.
- steveklabnik 10y ago
  Definitely didn't assume you were. Because there was so much interest in Rust pre-1.0, there's a lot of outdated material out there, and so it can confuse people. https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/14954 https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/14954 specifically was a huuuuge headache for a long time. This is slowly changing, of course, the farther we get away from 1.0. I still worry about it, though.
  - vram22 10y ago
    Cool. Then it's good that you're raising these points.
  - qznc 10y ago
    D has a similar problem. There is quite some outdated material on D1 out there. :)
    - vram22 10y ago
      Yes. There are pages that start with dlang.org/phobos/... and others that start with dlang.org/library/... I need to confirm but I think the "Phobos" ones are for the current library of D(ver)2 and "library" ones are for Tango, a different library that diverged from the standard one during the D1 days - something like that. I think I read that they have later sort of unified again, either that, or Tango is obsolete or less recommended. Maybe others who know more can comment.
      - qznc 10y ago
        Everything on dlang.org is fine. The phobos/ and library/ sections are two versions of the same content, generated from the same source files at the same time. The library/ stuff is the future, but not completely polished yet. The obsolete stuff is dsource.org. Most of it does not compile anymore and has no maintainers. If you are looking for libraries to use, go to https://code.dlang.org/ https://code.dlang.org/. Phobos is the standard library. Tango is a D1 projects. Most of it has been ported and integrated into Phobos now. Some people still like the Tango XML library: https://github.com/SiegeLord/Tango-D2 https://github.com/SiegeLord/Tango-D2
        vram22 10y ago
        Wow, didn't know that stuff. Thanks for explaining.
        vram22 10y ago
        After reading your comment I googled a bit and found this thread, which was somewhat interesting (2012), as also its linked /r/programming thread: https://semitwist.com/articles/article/view/dispelling-common-d-myths https://semitwist.com/articles/article/view/dispelling-commo... https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/118y4m/dispelling_common_d_myths/ https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/118y4m/dispell...