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"What’s happening right now, if we are not careful, will fragment the container ecosystem, and it make it impossible for single containers to target multiple ru
by bootload 10y ago
"What’s happening right now, if we are not careful, will fragment the container ecosystem, and it make it impossible for single containers to target multiple runtimes,"
UNIX had this problem and look how long it took before things settled. Linux was the result. Maybe this is a good thing?
- pjmlp 10y agoHave they really settled? In the 90's we had the UNIX wars. Nowadays we have the GNU/Linux wars. Each distribution does its own thing and every disagreement leads to yet another fork.
- malingo 10y agoRight, so in that context who is the FreeBSD of containers?
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- randallsquared 10y agoThe various distros have converged enough that you can typically run any userland program on any recent version of any distro. The recent adoption by virtually everyone of systemd is a sign of this, it seems.
- digi_owl 10y agomeh, that was fully possible before systemd. The real sticking point were distro package managers and the odd file placement difference (mostly regarding where to put the rc script to have things start on boot). This meant you could not just put a package out there and tell some clueless web monkey to go curl it straight into production as root. And IMO that was a good thing.
- randallsquared 10y ago> that was fully possible before systemd. The wide acceptance of systemd was an example of the convergence of the main distros. I didn't mean you to infer it was some sort of prerequisite.
- digi_owl 10y agoAnd that convergence is more politically than technically driven.
- brandmeyer 10y agoAnd yet, the major commercial applications I use (Chrome, Steam, Matlab) all come with their own copies of standard system libraries.
- digi_owl 10y agoI don't mind the forks, as they are all happening out in the open. What i do mind is how existing, well established distros are being hijacked by stary-eyed techies rather than spinning off their own proof of concept that others can adopt if they want to or not. Especially when said hijacking happens not overtly but subversively by tightly integrating previously separate projects to create a TINA situation.
- kuberwho 10y agoLinux distros don't compete, that's pretty clear.
- CaptSpify 10y agoSure they do. You can only install one distro on a machine. Since you have to choose one, they are competing for that spot.