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I don't think this was planned but it could become a great bait and switch scam for countries. 1. Negotiate special tax privileges for a company 2. Have them

by 300bps 10y ago

I don't think this was planned but it could become a great bait and switch scam for countries. 1. Negotiate special tax privileges for a company 2. Have them set up shop in your country 3. Allow them to pay little tax for several years 4. Have federal authority sue saying that the deal in #1 is illegal 5. Collect back taxes based on normal tax rate and not the special deal in #1

k-mcgrady 10y ago
I don't see how that would work (at least in Europe). Companies know now that the EC is going to come after them eventually unless they have their head buried in the sand and didn't hear today's news.
chronid 10y ago
They will not collect back 100% anyway, maybe maybe 1/3 of the total amount.
- Oletros 10y ago
  Why they won't collect all the due taxes?
  - chronid 10y ago
    Heavy discounts are usually given for this kind of issues by fiscal authorities, unless there is proof (beyond doubt) there was unlawful intent to not pay those taxes.
    - Oletros 10y ago
      But this is not a case of a Tax authority asking a company taxes, it is the EC saying what it is the amount owed.
  - gambiting 10y ago
    Imagine you had an agreement with your local tax authority that they agree for you to pay X in taxes. Then few years later tell you that actually, they were wrong and you have to pay more - you would fight this for as long as possible, wouldn't you?
    - k-mcgrady 10y ago
      You can try, you'll probably lose. When the figure is so low it should be blatantly obvious it is wrong you won't get far arguing that you did what you were told and didn't realise something was wrong. When you pay 0.005% tax over a year when the corporate tax rate in the country is 12.5% who can you argue you thought you were paying what you were required? They will try of course and I think Ireland and Apple have both said they will appeal to the European Court but I don't think they'll get very far.
    - edwinjm 10y ago
      Not if you knew the deal was sketchy from the start. What's likely the case here.

by 300bps 10y ago

k-mcgrady 10y ago

I don't see how that would work (at least in Europe). Companies know now that the EC is going to come after them eventually unless they have their head buried in the sand and didn't hear today's news.

chronid 10y ago

They will not collect back 100% anyway, maybe maybe 1/3 of the total amount.

Oletros 10y ago
Why they won't collect all the due taxes?
- chronid 10y ago
  Heavy discounts are usually given for this kind of issues by fiscal authorities, unless there is proof (beyond doubt) there was unlawful intent to not pay those taxes.
  - Oletros 10y ago
    But this is not a case of a Tax authority asking a company taxes, it is the EC saying what it is the amount owed.
- gambiting 10y ago
  Imagine you had an agreement with your local tax authority that they agree for you to pay X in taxes. Then few years later tell you that actually, they were wrong and you have to pay more - you would fight this for as long as possible, wouldn't you?
  - k-mcgrady 10y ago
    You can try, you'll probably lose. When the figure is so low it should be blatantly obvious it is wrong you won't get far arguing that you did what you were told and didn't realise something was wrong. When you pay 0.005% tax over a year when the corporate tax rate in the country is 12.5% who can you argue you thought you were paying what you were required? They will try of course and I think Ireland and Apple have both said they will appeal to the European Court but I don't think they'll get very far.
  - edwinjm 10y ago
    Not if you knew the deal was sketchy from the start. What's likely the case here.