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“Baffling” “signal” “from HD 164595” is probably none of the above
- redsummer 10y agoAssuming there is really a signal.... The sum of the numbers 164595 is 30. The traditional 30th wedding anniversary gift is a pearl. I hereby name this planet Pearl.
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- alabamamike 10y agoTL;DR: Nothing to see here, move along.
- SideburnsOfDoom 10y agoProbably not, but I would wait until the original authors have a look at this rebuttal, and comment on whether it is on the mark. Scientific method.
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- erelde 10y agoWhat is the user "bluestar" writing about in this thread? I don't even understand the intent of the message. https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=80193&postid=1813586 https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=80193&po...
- fsiefken 10y agoI wouldn't take it seriously - see the other bluestar posts https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_user_posts.php?userid=9772571 https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_user_posts.php?userid=... - just thoughts strung together, a train of thought, lost and found again... sometimes. I like the style though. I think the comment is about the nature of ETI communication and if it always fits our expectations (like bluestar's comment clearly does not).
- slowmovintarget 10y agoMakes me wonder if someone isn't pulling an elaborate prank in homage to Brin's Existence... The aliens are communicating by posting on our forums already.
- sperglord 10y agoI think they are trying to say that it's too difficult to distinguish noise from a real signal when we have no idea of what the underlying language or code is. I'm not really sure how that's relevant to this thread though.
- okket 10y ago... decoding, please wait ... ... analysing ... ... complete ... ... message content follows ... +++ U N S U B S C R I B E +++ https://xkcd.com/1675/ https://xkcd.com/1675/
- orliesaurus 10y agoOne of those Paddy Cosgrave's emails? or LinkedIN transactional emails?
- secfirstmd 10y agoLOL'd at the Paddy Cosgrave reference
- misnome 10y ago> or LinkedIN transactional emails? Certainly not the only one to think of LinkedIn; http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/science-technology/signal-from-distant-star-an-invitation-to-linkedin-20160830113017 http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/science-technology/signal...
- orliesaurus 10y agowow, great minds...I guess.
- pavlov 10y agoIn fact the LinkedIn invite seems to work as the "universal caption" for every New Yorker comic ever: http://time.com/4046328/new-yorker-linkedin-caption/ http://time.com/4046328/new-yorker-linkedin-caption/ So it's clearly the pinnacle of human civilization. It makes perfect sense that it's the message an alien intelligence would want to send us too.
- VonGuard 10y agoThat's a great modern twist on the original idea that every New Yorker cartoon works then the text is changed to, "Christ, what an asshole."
- skc 10y agoI somehow hate that he used the word "probably" Takes the sting out of the piece.
- maaaats 10y agoWhat is the table with numbers they have in their signatures?
- isoprophlex 10y agoTheir individual contributions to various distributed computing efforts, most likely.
- kristopolous 10y agoit's extremely distracting. I find it hard to read the content with those. Luckily the page renders in text browsers ok.
- drmpeg 10y agoHere's more coherent article. http://www.seti.org/seti-institute/a-seti-signal http://www.seti.org/seti-institute/a-seti-signal
- felideon 10y agoWhile informative your article left me thinking the conclusion was "we don't know what it is", whereas with the OP the conclusion was "nothing to see here, move along".
- RileyKyeden 10y ago[decoded alien signal from HD 164595] "...must be willing to relocate to San Francisco."
- mehzer 10y agosomething something... professional network... something... linkedin
- yitchelle 10y agoAre they looking for Star Fleet Academy? It is by the bridge..
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- akhilcacharya 10y ago"Unsubscribe"
- chockZ 10y agoI am making 85 bucks hourly for working from home
- whamlastxmas 10y ago"Sentient species from Gamma Quadrant working on next big thing to change the galaxy - Facebook for Gilgameks. Seeking unpaid technical co-founder, offering 1% equity and all the blach you can marklar"
- yongjik 10y ago> ...all the blach you can marklar See, it's language like this that turns aspiring blachen in the Galaxy away from the tech sector...
- maverick_iceman 10y agoUber for galaxy hoppers.
- gp7 10y agoI find myself frustrated at researchers who get frustrated at non-researchers being interested at all in their work. It's the same as the hypothetical megastructure; all the news is quite clear: no satisfying explanation is available. That's the news! That's interesting, even to people who decided not to devote their lives to astronomy! People jump to the alien angle because it's interesting. The few left with that impression that aliens really are involved are likely not going to be dissuaded by more technical reporting
- mikeash 10y agoThe trouble is that people jump to the alien angle because it's interesting, then get angry with the scientists when it turns out to be mundane. I don't see this so much as being frustrated with people who are interested, but rather being frustrated with reporters who take something relatively mundane and blow it into a big story, setting people up for disappointment. And actually, the linked post gives several satisfying explanations. They don't know which one is the right one, but that's not the same as "unexplained." If you see a flash of light in the night, it could be car headlights or lightning or a transformer explosion. It could be aliens, but the mundane explanations are enough, even if you don't have enough information to choose one in particular.
- dTal 10y agoI agree with your point in general, but I'm not sure "unexplained" means the same as "having no explanation". After all, you can "explain" any phenomenon by mass hallucination of everyone who's observed it, or simply chocking it up to an extremely unlikely macroscopic quantum fluctuation. To decide whether something's a satisfactory explanation, you have to look at the a priori probability, not just how well it fits the facts. We don't actually know the a priori probability of detecting life, so it's hard to compare it against the also unknown probabilities of various other previously undiscovered astronomical phenomena, like the proposed "swarm of comets" around Tabby's star. All that being said, in this case the fact that "SETI@home has seen millions of potential signals with similar characteristics" does imply there's nothing in particular here to get excited about. But you know, all those other signals could have been aliens too...
- lotharbot 10y agoThe comment I found most useful: We believe a signal when It is persistent. It appears at the same spot in the sky in multiple observations. It only comes from one spot in the sky. If we reobserve the target, the signal is still there. Things that add to believability Its frequency/period/delay does not correspond to known interference. Its Doppler Drift rate indicates that it is exactly frequency stable in the frame of the center of mass of the solar system Its properties (bandwidth, chirp rate, encoding) indicate intelligent origin. Unfortunately the observing method used by the Russian team does not permit many of these things to be determine. 1. The signal was not persistent. 2. The signal was gone when the target was reobserved. 3. The signal frequency/period/delay cannot be determined. 4. The signal Doppler drift rate is unknown. 5. Many sources of interference, including satellites, are present in the observing band.
- test6554 10y agohistory_channel_aliens_guy.jpg?caption=Dyson%20Sphere
- bladedtoys 10y ago> There's also nothing that could distinguish it from a satellite passing through the telescope field of view There is no tool that automatically rules this in or out as a possibility? I would have thought it would be nearly trivial to build such a thing. Am I missing something?