>Even wargamers would be hard pressed to name more than a few AH computer products, and nothing ever came close to impacting the general public like SimCity or

>Even wargamers would be hard pressed to name more than a few AH computer products, and nothing ever came close to impacting the general public like SimCity or Quake. I think he is selling Avalon Hill a little short. As a gamer in the 80s I remember Avalon Hill very fondly. This was especially true in the early 80s when games were few and far between. I spent many hours tediously loading B-1 Nuclear Bomber on my tape cassette drive. They certainly never had a huge impact on the general public like SimCity but they were very well-appreciated and well-regarded in the Gaming community. To this day I still occasionally load up Guderian on the emulator, which remains an extremely challenging game even given the limits of AI in 1986.