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Conversations: Your Privilege

4 points by DinahDavis 10y ago

DinahDavis 10y ago
We are excited to have our first installment of Conversations up on #CodeLikeAGirl. It is a discussion of a previous post about male privilege that spurred a lot of discussions here on Hacker News. We posted this here to share how the conversation continued!
- red_blobs 10y ago
  "#CodeLikeAGirl." The irony of discussing privilege and equality on a forum entitled '#codelikagirl' is not lost on me. If you want equality, you should act like it..instead of creating websites and forums that segregate yourself into gender-based groups.
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red_blobs 10y ago
"How can we reach males who have empathy for women’s causes, but are oblivious to male privilege?" Women have higher reading rates, better graduation rates, and more are graduating from college than men. We have a much higher percentage of women as: teachers, vets, and biologists to name a few..and nobody is complaining or fighting for more 'equality'. We have women executives in almost every large company in the US and contrary to popular belief, there is no gender-pay gap when you actually account for the career/position. There was male privilege in the 1950s and 60s, but our society is different now. I don't agree with most of the feminist causes online because I can see that when they get any sort of power, they only want to oppress men. It has nothing to do with true 'equality'.
geoffbrown2014 10y ago
I think a better word than privilege would be network. Networks confer priviledge to their members. That's less personal than saying you're priveledged. Out groups would like to be included in prosperous networks. Who wouldn't? I don't believe networks are just about providing value. If they were, women and others would already be included. Networks are also very much about identity and loyalty and fitness signalling. My limited understanding of women's issues around this appear clustered around fairness. Essentially this amounts to a recess argument that the boys are having more fun and that's not fair. Obviously a gross oversimplification, but the vernacular of the argument will fall on deaf ears more likely than not. It's not that you are wrong you just aren't playing by the "rules".

4 points by DinahDavis 10y ago

We are excited to have our first installment of Conversations up on #CodeLikeAGirl. It is a discussion of a previous post about male privilege that spurred a lot of discussions here on Hacker News. We posted this here to share how the conversation continued!

red_blobs 10y ago
"#CodeLikeAGirl." The irony of discussing privilege and equality on a forum entitled '#codelikagirl' is not lost on me. If you want equality, you should act like it..instead of creating websites and forums that segregate yourself into gender-based groups.

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red_blobs 10y ago

"How can we reach males who have empathy for women’s causes, but are oblivious to male privilege?" Women have higher reading rates, better graduation rates, and more are graduating from college than men. We have a much higher percentage of women as: teachers, vets, and biologists to name a few..and nobody is complaining or fighting for more 'equality'. We have women executives in almost every large company in the US and contrary to popular belief, there is no gender-pay gap when you actually account for the career/position. There was male privilege in the 1950s and 60s, but our society is different now. I don't agree with most of the feminist causes online because I can see that when they get any sort of power, they only want to oppress men. It has nothing to do with true 'equality'.

geoffbrown2014 10y ago

I think a better word than privilege would be network. Networks confer priviledge to their members. That's less personal than saying you're priveledged. Out groups would like to be included in prosperous networks. Who wouldn't? I don't believe networks are just about providing value. If they were, women and others would already be included. Networks are also very much about identity and loyalty and fitness signalling. My limited understanding of women's issues around this appear clustered around fairness. Essentially this amounts to a recess argument that the boys are having more fun and that's not fair. Obviously a gross oversimplification, but the vernacular of the argument will fall on deaf ears more likely than not. It's not that you are wrong you just aren't playing by the "rules".