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> Google is a massive company, and unless they are specifically head-hunting you, it's not fair to expect them to even spend 5 minutes going through your person

> Google is a massive company, and unless they are specifically head-hunting you, it's not fair to expect them to even spend 5 minutes going through your personal site. Every time I see someone bring up this rough point the time gets shorter. "I'm important, I don't have 5 minutes to look at your personal page!" or some variant of that. It's ridiculous. If I'm reaching out to someone to start hiring, I'd be looking at personal pages, github pages, looking through their code, etc. The only reason you wouldn't is if you don't actually give a shit and you're just working through a list of candidates and trying to get your conversion rate up. Plus someone who goes around recruiting without looking at WHO they're recruiting is not somebody I'd work for...

raverbashing 10y ago
Yes If google is serious about hiring "the best" (which is debatable) they should definitely be paying more attention and not just spamming people
- deelowe 10y ago
  There's a pretty low signal to noise ratio on recruiting. They typically don't start going into a candidate's details until they've managed to get a resume.
- blakeyrat 10y ago
  But we don't know if this recruiter is hiring "the best" or just some schlub to sit behind a phone and tell small business owners how to update their email signatures. Not every one of Google's 61,000 employees is "OMG super A+ number one hot code engineer geek!"
  - FussyZeus 10y ago
    CSR's don't generally have github pages.
    - blakeyrat 10y ago
      Ok? I don't see how that's relevant.
greggyb 10y ago
> The only reason you wouldn't is if you don't actually give a shit and you're just working through a list of candidates and trying to get your conversion rate up. Conversion rate is $number_hires / $number_prospects_contacted. It seems that indiscriminate spamming would pretty much tank the conversion rate.
- FussyZeus 10y ago
  You're assuming those two parameters, mine were $number_of_interviews / $number_of_prospects. Unless that's an industry term I misused, in which case I apologize.
  - greggyb 10y ago
    I am, and apologies for that. My starting point is "The goal of a recruiter is to fill positions." This leads to hiring actions being the key conversion step. In a hiring pipeline with length like Google's or similar, I could very easily be assigning too much weight to this sort of role. Thanks for helping me think in a different way.

raverbashing 10y ago

Yes If google is serious about hiring "the best" (which is debatable) they should definitely be paying more attention and not just spamming people

deelowe 10y ago
There's a pretty low signal to noise ratio on recruiting. They typically don't start going into a candidate's details until they've managed to get a resume.
blakeyrat 10y ago
But we don't know if this recruiter is hiring "the best" or just some schlub to sit behind a phone and tell small business owners how to update their email signatures. Not every one of Google's 61,000 employees is "OMG super A+ number one hot code engineer geek!"
- FussyZeus 10y ago
  CSR's don't generally have github pages.
  - blakeyrat 10y ago
    Ok? I don't see how that's relevant.

greggyb 10y ago

> The only reason you wouldn't is if you don't actually give a shit and you're just working through a list of candidates and trying to get your conversion rate up. Conversion rate is $number_hires / $number_prospects_contacted. It seems that indiscriminate spamming would pretty much tank the conversion rate.

FussyZeus 10y ago
You're assuming those two parameters, mine were $number_of_interviews / $number_of_prospects. Unless that's an industry term I misused, in which case I apologize.
- greggyb 10y ago
  I am, and apologies for that. My starting point is "The goal of a recruiter is to fill positions." This leads to hiring actions being the key conversion step. In a hiring pipeline with length like Google's or similar, I could very easily be assigning too much weight to this sort of role. Thanks for helping me think in a different way.