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I'm going to have to call bullshit, Where do you work or what company do you own? I work at MindGeek, depending on the time of the year it would be fair to say

by ckdarby 10y ago

I'm going to have to call bullshit, Where do you work or what company do you own? I work at MindGeek, depending on the time of the year it would be fair to say we rank within the top 25 bandwidth users in the world. We are not even close to that amount of servers and we deal with some of the largest traffic in the world. What company is running in 70+ datacenters!? World's largest VPN provider? Security company providing all the data to the NSA? Maybe it is just my broad assumptions but I would hope that the major big 10 that come to mind such as Google, Amazon, Microsoft, etc would be able to rebuild their production regions in hours.

Sanddancer 10y ago
Not the OP, but first thing that comes to mind as to why you'd need a lot of datacenters are CDNs like Cloudflare or Akamai. Stuff like that, you need lots of servers, lots of storage, and low latency. You'd also need a good amount of configurations because things like video streaming would require different server settings than, say, protecting a site that's being DDOSed.
- cortesoft 10y ago
  Ding ding ding :D I don't work for one of those two, but I do work for a very large CDN.
cortesoft 10y ago
I work for a large CDN.
ceejayoz 10y ago
> I work at MindGeek, depending on the time of the year it would be fair to say we rank within the top 25 bandwidth users in the world. "I'd have thought I've had heard of them..." One Wiki search later... yup. I've heard of them.
- Steeeve 10y ago
  Ha! I went to their website... Hmm... never heard of them. Went to Wikipedia... Oh, now I know who they are! Yeah. Lot's of bandwidth.
fnord123 10y ago
>What company is running in 70+ datacenters!? People running edge networks and therefore need servers local to everywhere in the world to keep latencies down. Maybe it's not as much of an issue for MindGeek (the parent company for a lot of video streaming sites). I would guess you guys need a lot of throughput but latency isn't so much of a problem. Or you simply don't need to serve some parts of the world where it might be illegal to distribute some types of content. FWIW, Cloudflare has 86 data centers: https://www.cloudflare.com/network-map/ https://www.cloudflare.com/network-map/
- cortesoft 10y ago
  Or they are customers of CDNs.
user5994461 10y ago
[Note: MindGeek = the pornhub network] Short version: That's a video streaming websites which is rather simple, yet bandwidth intensive. Outsourcing the caching and video delivery means MindGeek can do with little servers and a few locations. Nonetheless the CDN you're outsourcing to does need a lot of servers at many edge locations. Actually, if we think in terms of "top bandwith users in the world". It's possible that your company is far from being in the list. It's likely dominated by content delivery / ISP / and other providers, most of which are unknown to the public.
- ckdarby 10y ago
  Would you say Netflix & Youtube are rather simple? Handling +100 million users is never rather simple...
  - user5994461 10y ago
    Youtube had the challenge of being one of the first streaming services, and it's operating at an unprecedented scale. I am actually wondering, how many orders of magnitude youtube has more traffic than pornhub? I am in distributed systems and try to work exclusively on hard problems. So when I say "simple", that is biased on the high end of the spectrum. If you go to pornhub.com and looks at "popular keyword", you'll only find thousand or ten thousands videos. In a way, there is not that much content on pornhub. All major websites have challenge. Pornhub is a single purpose website and a lot of the challenge is in video delivery, which can be outsourced to a CDN nowadays. "simple" is maybe too strong a word. I am trying to convey the idea that it has limited scope and [some of] the problems it's facing are understood by now and have [decent] solutions. That's not to say it's easy ;)

by ckdarby 10y ago

Sanddancer 10y ago

Not the OP, but first thing that comes to mind as to why you'd need a lot of datacenters are CDNs like Cloudflare or Akamai. Stuff like that, you need lots of servers, lots of storage, and low latency. You'd also need a good amount of configurations because things like video streaming would require different server settings than, say, protecting a site that's being DDOSed.

cortesoft 10y ago
Ding ding ding :D I don't work for one of those two, but I do work for a very large CDN.

cortesoft 10y ago

I work for a large CDN.

ceejayoz 10y ago

> I work at MindGeek, depending on the time of the year it would be fair to say we rank within the top 25 bandwidth users in the world. "I'd have thought I've had heard of them..." One Wiki search later... yup. I've heard of them.

Steeeve 10y ago
Ha! I went to their website... Hmm... never heard of them. Went to Wikipedia... Oh, now I know who they are! Yeah. Lot's of bandwidth.

fnord123 10y ago

>What company is running in 70+ datacenters!? People running edge networks and therefore need servers local to everywhere in the world to keep latencies down. Maybe it's not as much of an issue for MindGeek (the parent company for a lot of video streaming sites). I would guess you guys need a lot of throughput but latency isn't so much of a problem. Or you simply don't need to serve some parts of the world where it might be illegal to distribute some types of content. FWIW, Cloudflare has 86 data centers: https://www.cloudflare.com/network-map/ https://www.cloudflare.com/network-map/

cortesoft 10y ago
Or they are customers of CDNs.

user5994461 10y ago

[Note: MindGeek = the pornhub network] Short version: That's a video streaming websites which is rather simple, yet bandwidth intensive. Outsourcing the caching and video delivery means MindGeek can do with little servers and a few locations. Nonetheless the CDN you're outsourcing to does need a lot of servers at many edge locations. Actually, if we think in terms of "top bandwith users in the world". It's possible that your company is far from being in the list. It's likely dominated by content delivery / ISP / and other providers, most of which are unknown to the public.

ckdarby 10y ago
Would you say Netflix & Youtube are rather simple? Handling +100 million users is never rather simple...
- user5994461 10y ago
  Youtube had the challenge of being one of the first streaming services, and it's operating at an unprecedented scale. I am actually wondering, how many orders of magnitude youtube has more traffic than pornhub? I am in distributed systems and try to work exclusively on hard problems. So when I say "simple", that is biased on the high end of the spectrum. If you go to pornhub.com and looks at "popular keyword", you'll only find thousand or ten thousands videos. In a way, there is not that much content on pornhub. All major websites have challenge. Pornhub is a single purpose website and a lot of the challenge is in video delivery, which can be outsourced to a CDN nowadays. "simple" is maybe too strong a word. I am trying to convey the idea that it has limited scope and [some of] the problems it's facing are understood by now and have [decent] solutions. That's not to say it's easy ;)