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Do you have a link to something that has more data, and not just a single case? I would rather read that... :) . As an aside, what is going in here (HN) today

Do you have a link to something that has more data, and not just a single case? I would rather read that... :) . As an aside, what is going in here (HN) today? Is it that it's Sunday, attracting a different crowd than usual? In this thread and in many others I see many perfectly legit comments - that normally remain untouched by downvotes (and I've been here quite often the last two weeks at least) - got downvoted? For example (to give one in this thread) ComodoHacker's comment - light gray just now - "For whom?..." here. I'm not sure what's downvote-worthy pointing out that developing countries usually have severe issues with their legal system. I only ask because it's unusual from my recent experience here at least. If it was common I would not bother to mention it or ask. In another thread somebody asked the same question (and that comment was gray - of course).

autokad 10y ago
on HN, people down-vote opinions that dont conform to their own, and I think thats a really negative aspect of the site. The problem only gets exacerbated by the karma system, so people are afraid to say anything anyone might disagree with, or at least repeat what is popular. I try to avoid looking at the comments section if at all possible, but sometimes I might read them to see if there is more information, as this article didnt go into much detail on the specifics of what the disagreements were over. Overall, I say the HN comments section is down right poison.
- noobermin 10y ago
  You can see that in a negative light: in some cases--especially polarizing issues, it does sort of send us into our two camps (best example: the brexit threads). However, it also requires that when one suggests something against the grain, the poster must act civilly and present their argument in the least abrasive way possible. Typically, I find that even when people disagree, such posters are voted up anyway, and it ensures that the signal-to-noise ratio remains high, as it does here relative to almost every other comment section on the net.
PhasmaFelis 10y ago
For whatever it's worth, there seems to be little correlation between a comment's immediate karma (say, within an hour or so posting) and its ultimate karma. I've had plenty of very highly rated comments that were at -1 or -2 15 minutes after I posted them. My best guess is that people are browsing New and not bothering to check context before downvoting. Once the comment falls off the first few pages of New, more thoughtful readers in the thread itself take over.
vilhelm_s 10y ago
The ICSID website has pdfs of their decisions. If you use the search function, and pick Instrument(s) Invoked - Treaty - Other treaties - NAFTA, there are only 25 results, so it should be quite quick to read through and see if you like them or not. https://icsid.worldbank.org/apps/icsidweb/cases/pages/advancedsearch.aspx https://icsid.worldbank.org/apps/icsidweb/cases/pages/advanc...

autokad 10y ago

on HN, people down-vote opinions that dont conform to their own, and I think thats a really negative aspect of the site. The problem only gets exacerbated by the karma system, so people are afraid to say anything anyone might disagree with, or at least repeat what is popular. I try to avoid looking at the comments section if at all possible, but sometimes I might read them to see if there is more information, as this article didnt go into much detail on the specifics of what the disagreements were over. Overall, I say the HN comments section is down right poison.

noobermin 10y ago
You can see that in a negative light: in some cases--especially polarizing issues, it does sort of send us into our two camps (best example: the brexit threads). However, it also requires that when one suggests something against the grain, the poster must act civilly and present their argument in the least abrasive way possible. Typically, I find that even when people disagree, such posters are voted up anyway, and it ensures that the signal-to-noise ratio remains high, as it does here relative to almost every other comment section on the net.

PhasmaFelis 10y ago

For whatever it's worth, there seems to be little correlation between a comment's immediate karma (say, within an hour or so posting) and its ultimate karma. I've had plenty of very highly rated comments that were at -1 or -2 15 minutes after I posted them. My best guess is that people are browsing New and not bothering to check context before downvoting. Once the comment falls off the first few pages of New, more thoughtful readers in the thread itself take over.

vilhelm_s 10y ago

The ICSID website has pdfs of their decisions. If you use the search function, and pick Instrument(s) Invoked - Treaty - Other treaties - NAFTA, there are only 25 results, so it should be quite quick to read through and see if you like them or not. https://icsid.worldbank.org/apps/icsidweb/cases/pages/advancedsearch.aspx https://icsid.worldbank.org/apps/icsidweb/cases/pages/advanc...