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'Nearly every film'? I can't think of the last film I watched where I saw a disclaimer like this. Maybe I just don't watch a lot of movies that could be interpr

'Nearly every film'? I can't think of the last film I watched where I saw a disclaimer like this. Maybe I just don't watch a lot of movies that could be interpreted as true, but this title seems hyperbolic. Edit: it's at the very end of most films.

tgb 10y ago
I've seen it in a lot of obviously-fiction books. The first time I noticed it was in a Disk World novel, which was so obviously fictional-and-yet-based-on-real-places-and-people that I thought it was a joke. The back even had descriptions of the locals in the series with that of the continent Klatch saying "Not loosely based on Africa at all. Honestly."
wongarsu 10y ago
Just checking a few random movies. Movies I checked that have this disclaimer: - Despicable Me 2 - Django Unchained - Inception - Jurassic World - James Bond: Spectre - Avatar (extended cut) - Spaceballs Movies I checked that don't have this disclaimer: - Tangled It's usually among the very last lines of the end credits, among the statements about dedication to the environment, distance from the tobacco industry, lack of animal abuse etc. If you're not watching the end credits you will never notice it.
- thatcherc 10y ago
  Ah got it. I thought the author meant the disclaimer came right in the beginning of the credits. Thanks for clearing that up!
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- DannyBee 10y ago
  "If you're not watching the end credits you will never notice it." Which of course, makes it mostly meaningless. If you want these things to have any meaningful legal effect, people have to know it.
  - harryjo 10y ago
    So, EULAs and TOSes have no meaninful legal effect?
    - kwhitefoot 10y ago
      You cannot agree to what you cannot read so anything that can only be read after purchase is not part of the contract that you agreed with the seller.
    - cloudjacker 10y ago
      Historically that's correct. The software industry has routinely been denied enforcement of their agreements by the way they make users agree to them The reaction is some companies have slightly different agreement things such as making you scroll to the bottom first But then everyone decides again that the risk is pretty low and user engagement matters more and the tos agreement stuff takes a backseat again
    - wongarsu 10y ago
      At least in Germany, any clause that the average user wouldn't expect in such an agreement isn't binding.
  - wongarsu 10y ago
    But you should have known it if you watched the entire movie (which includes the credits). If you're concerned, after-credit scenes are a good way to force people to sit through the end credits. Then the defense "I left earlier and thus didn't read that" becomes "I was talking to my friend while that disclaimer was on screen and thus didn't read it".
cafard 10y ago
Just saw "A Tale of Love and Darkness". The disclaimer was so sweeping that I wondered whether we were to believe that there is such a place as Jerusalem.

tgb 10y ago

I've seen it in a lot of obviously-fiction books. The first time I noticed it was in a Disk World novel, which was so obviously fictional-and-yet-based-on-real-places-and-people that I thought it was a joke. The back even had descriptions of the locals in the series with that of the continent Klatch saying "Not loosely based on Africa at all. Honestly."

wongarsu 10y ago

Just checking a few random movies. Movies I checked that have this disclaimer: - Despicable Me 2 - Django Unchained - Inception - Jurassic World - James Bond: Spectre - Avatar (extended cut) - Spaceballs Movies I checked that don't have this disclaimer: - Tangled It's usually among the very last lines of the end credits, among the statements about dedication to the environment, distance from the tobacco industry, lack of animal abuse etc. If you're not watching the end credits you will never notice it.

thatcherc 10y ago
Ah got it. I thought the author meant the disclaimer came right in the beginning of the credits. Thanks for clearing that up!
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DannyBee 10y ago
"If you're not watching the end credits you will never notice it." Which of course, makes it mostly meaningless. If you want these things to have any meaningful legal effect, people have to know it.
- harryjo 10y ago
  So, EULAs and TOSes have no meaninful legal effect?
  - kwhitefoot 10y ago
    You cannot agree to what you cannot read so anything that can only be read after purchase is not part of the contract that you agreed with the seller.
  - cloudjacker 10y ago
    Historically that's correct. The software industry has routinely been denied enforcement of their agreements by the way they make users agree to them The reaction is some companies have slightly different agreement things such as making you scroll to the bottom first But then everyone decides again that the risk is pretty low and user engagement matters more and the tos agreement stuff takes a backseat again
  - wongarsu 10y ago
    At least in Germany, any clause that the average user wouldn't expect in such an agreement isn't binding.
- wongarsu 10y ago
  But you should have known it if you watched the entire movie (which includes the credits). If you're concerned, after-credit scenes are a good way to force people to sit through the end credits. Then the defense "I left earlier and thus didn't read that" becomes "I was talking to my friend while that disclaimer was on screen and thus didn't read it".

cafard 10y ago

Just saw "A Tale of Love and Darkness". The disclaimer was so sweeping that I wondered whether we were to believe that there is such a place as Jerusalem.