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First, we are not federal/parliament. The public has no power here. Second, Duterte wants to operate within the bounds of the law that's why he doesn't simply k

by jister 10y ago

First, we are not federal/parliament. The public has no power here. Second, Duterte wants to operate within the bounds of the law that's why he doesn't simply kill anyone. Third, nobody supports extrajudicial killings. The problem is the media and human rights made it to look that way. They emphasized and generalized that all killings are the same. Remember that the Oligarchs owned the media and the one heading Human Rights is pro-Oligarchs. Basically all homicide and murders is now Duterte's fault. There was even an article in Time magazine that insisted that it's all Duterte's fault. It's all political.

dave_sullivan 10y ago
> First, we are not federal/parliament. The public has no power here. Apparently you have power to get someone voted into office that can then make pretty big moves within the political apparatus of the country. Could you expand on the idea of "no power" here? You literally have no legislative body? Mass murder or complete political gridlock are the only two options? > The problem is the media and human rights made it to look that way. So you're saying that there hasn't been a big bump in homicide rates at the same time as the new president has been saying he's going to kill a bunch of people? I mean, maybe the media is warping the picture. But how do you account for that pile of dead bodies over there? I'm just not clear of your argument here. Oligarchs control the media so these dead bodies are fakes, and to hell with due process because the public only has the power of a gun?
- jister 10y ago
  We can vote, yes, but that's it. After that we rely if the leaders that we voted will actually perform their duties. Our legislative, Judicial and Executive branches of the government are largely influenced by the Oligarchs before Duterte took office. We have selective justice here. People running can defy a TRO (temporary restraining order) just what happened a few years back then the head of Legislative, De Lima, defied the TRO given by Judiciary. That was during the Aquino administration. It was also during the Aquino term that he bribe the Senate to impeach Justice Corona who is the head of Judiciary. This was all in the news back then but was quickly buried. There were masacres of farmers before. 1,819 killed in 2010 and 2,089 in 2011 by "riding-in-tandem" (crimes perpetrated by more than one person, usually two men, on a motorcycle) but was quickly buried too. There are a lot of injustice that has been going on here that you don't see in the news. Oligarchs-owned media have been covering it up ever since. During the previous Aquino administration crime rate increase to 350% but that did not made news. Most of these crimes are drug related. Information were being controlled by our local media. Due process are given to those who surrendered. In front of a drug suspect holding a gun, what do you want to police to do talk them to death?

by jister 10y ago

dave_sullivan 10y ago

> First, we are not federal/parliament. The public has no power here. Apparently you have power to get someone voted into office that can then make pretty big moves within the political apparatus of the country. Could you expand on the idea of "no power" here? You literally have no legislative body? Mass murder or complete political gridlock are the only two options? > The problem is the media and human rights made it to look that way. So you're saying that there hasn't been a big bump in homicide rates at the same time as the new president has been saying he's going to kill a bunch of people? I mean, maybe the media is warping the picture. But how do you account for that pile of dead bodies over there? I'm just not clear of your argument here. Oligarchs control the media so these dead bodies are fakes, and to hell with due process because the public only has the power of a gun?

jister 10y ago
We can vote, yes, but that's it. After that we rely if the leaders that we voted will actually perform their duties. Our legislative, Judicial and Executive branches of the government are largely influenced by the Oligarchs before Duterte took office. We have selective justice here. People running can defy a TRO (temporary restraining order) just what happened a few years back then the head of Legislative, De Lima, defied the TRO given by Judiciary. That was during the Aquino administration. It was also during the Aquino term that he bribe the Senate to impeach Justice Corona who is the head of Judiciary. This was all in the news back then but was quickly buried. There were masacres of farmers before. 1,819 killed in 2010 and 2,089 in 2011 by "riding-in-tandem" (crimes perpetrated by more than one person, usually two men, on a motorcycle) but was quickly buried too. There are a lot of injustice that has been going on here that you don't see in the news. Oligarchs-owned media have been covering it up ever since. During the previous Aquino administration crime rate increase to 350% but that did not made news. Most of these crimes are drug related. Information were being controlled by our local media. Due process are given to those who surrendered. In front of a drug suspect holding a gun, what do you want to police to do talk them to death?