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The folks I know at Amazon may have been in the office for a normal amount of time, but they worked long night after long night from home. If they're approachin
by krisdol 10y ago
The folks I know at Amazon may have been in the office for a normal amount of time, but they worked long night after long night from home. If they're approaching a 30 hour work week as a reduction from 40, it's bound to fail. They have to realize it would be q reduction from 60 or 80
- citizenflynn 10y agoAnd my team at Amazon almost every day has only 4/5 engineers at the office because one is taking it easy working from home. Sometimes people take hour lunches and leave after 7 hours. Sometimes they want to finish something and stay later.
- gtrubetskoy 10y agoIn which way is "working from home" "taking it easy"?
- yazaddaruvala 10y agoYou put "working form home" all in quotes :) For some of us its "working" from home :P
- citizenflynn 10y agoWhen you're running errands, fixing your car, and working on changes when you can.
- jsemrau 10y agoWork-life balance? As well-educated adults it makes me cringe how we constrict ourselves mentally to being productive employees only in a specific geographical location. When working in companies with a global reach, the workday has 24 hours.
- andrewguenther 10y agoBecause working from home is usually light on working.
- themartorana 10y agoNot in my experience or the experiences of anyone I know or work with.
- smm2000 10y agoA few times we got "work from home" day when teams moved from one building to another. You would expect more emails that day than usual as you could not just talk in person. Well, both number of email and commits went down significantly which tells me that people mostly "worked" from home that day.
- toomuchtodo 10y agoIf you're measuring productivity by email and commit volume, and you're a manager, you should be fired. It's the digital equivalent of "hours in the chair".
- zzalpha 10y agoThat was a one-off event. Folks who don't regularly remote work will think of that as a "treat". In their minds they're probably viewing it as an unofficial day off. Assuming that's comparable to a true remote work policy is silly.
- Retra 10y agoPersonally, I can't effectively work at home. If you send me home to work, I'm going to be constantly distracted. If you want me to be productive, make sure I have an office. So, with forewarning, I'm not the only person like this, and if a manager or executive wants to make this kind of decision and expect productivity to not suffer, they're being... stupid.
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- jaredsohn 10y agoIt can be quieter, you don't have to deal with office distractions, and if you are an introvert it can be less draining.
- krisdol 10y agoThat sounds ideal for working harder, not taking it easy :).
- dasmoth 10y agoCertainly agree on the "less draining" part -- but I'd like to think I'm being paid for making stuff, rather than for ending the day shattered. Some employers seem to have different views, though.
- jaredsohn 10y agoI don't disagree; Google says "take it easy" means "proceed calmly and in a relaxed manner" which I think fits what I described (and you'll probably get more work done this way, too if you already have a good idea of what you need to do.)
- radiorental 10y agoPunctuation and order are not prerequisits for making a point, but they help. Sometimes sleep deprivation manifests itself in strange ways sometimes.
- citizenflynn 10y agoAs does spelling.
- ycombinatorMan 10y agoLike saying sometimes twice
- rdtsc 10y agoDon't work for Amazon but work from home. I don't take it easy at all. It can be even harder than being in the office because it is hard to stop working. So have to be vigilant about that. Now not burning gas and time and nerves stuck in traffic every day and being able to have lunch with my family is a nice bonus. But if that is considered "taking it" easy, a potential employee wouldn't benefit from that either, that would be time and resources just wasted (I guess car mechanics and gas stations would benefit from that at some point).
- BookingPotions 10y agoThat's true sometimes, and makes sense in the salaried way. But to take a reduced pay you would need to be guaranteed reduced work. Also, you sound disgruntled, why don't you do the same if you feel your team allows it?
- yeukhon 10y agoI agree. First, this is a team made up of part-time workers, not full-time workers, which is not what I was expecting by reading the title. So working 30 hours a week is really really not that special, consider they are PART TIME. Regardless, there are weeks people will have to pull extra hours to complete work, such as during product launch week. If this were a program made up of full-time employees, I would be interested to see the number of overtime hours this team will accumulate. Otherwise, I don't see what's so interesting about this experiment. BTW, I work extra hours because sometimes I just want to work extra hours. Sometimes, I just want to pull extra hours to get the most boring stuff out of the way. Instead of a 30-hour pilot, make Friday a half-day for everyone.
- citizenflynn 10y agoIt is special in that you have proportional salary and full benefits. Many part time jobs have substantially reduced pay and benefits, unlike this.
- toomuchtodo 10y agoPerhaps that's the appropriate pay and 40+ hour/week workers should be making more?
- pm215 10y agoIt's special in that currently getting non-full-time work as a software engineer is pretty tricky (you can often arrange to drop down to part time at your existing company, but getting a job at a new company on non-full-time hours is much harder). So if it catches on and the opportunities for part-time workers become more numerous that's great for people (including me) who don't or can't work full time.
- BookingPotions 10y agoI agree about the hour spread. It should be something like a max hour per week, but that you can partition as you see fit.