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Some weeks ago, I was looking (again) for a privacy-oriented alternative email provider. I stumbled upon mailbox.org and some others (like protonmail, and start
by mk89 10y ago
Some weeks ago, I was looking (again) for a privacy-oriented alternative email provider. I stumbled upon mailbox.org and some others (like protonmail, and startmail).
I decided to go for mailbox because 1) I know that Germany at the moment has still one of the best regulations about data protection (although I fear this is going to change in the next few years), 2) it provides some features others don't (like protonmail, and startmail). It was worth a try at least, so I decided to use the 30 days trial account.
It looked really good and promising: nice UI, clear documentation, cool domain name if you don't want to use your own. It provides also Office-like, calendar, and storage features. Therefore, I made up my mind, and I was determined to become one of their paying customers. So, I put 12 EUR(1 EUR/month) on the account. A few hours later I found out[0] that mailbox.org is offered by a politically motivated provider called JPBerlin [1]. I sent the cancellation request, and so far my account is still on hold - I could revoke the cancellation, though. An email received after the cancellation request says "please allow us a couple of days". Sure. It's just they took 1 EUR from the account, although I had the cancellation request sent like 10 days before the end of the trial period.
In the end, I would like to say that as a service it looks promising. However, until they stop with their political involvement, I think, not many people will use it.
[0]: http://www.emaildiscussions.com/showthread.php?t=68527 http://www.emaildiscussions.com/showthread.php?t=68527
[1]: https://www.jpberlin.de https://www.jpberlin.de
- madez 10y agoAre you sure you understand what they mean by saying they are a political provider?
- galaktor 10y agoMight be better to link to the "www" sub-domain [1] of your second URL; otherwise getting SSL cert issues. [1] https://www.jpberlin.de/ https://www.jpberlin.de/
- deleted 10y ago[deleted]
- cygned 10y agoI would have recommended Posteo [0]. They are known for their efforts of keeping your stuff private. [0]: https://posteo.de/en https://posteo.de/en
- galaktor 10y agoThanks for linking. The flexible pricing for additional GB storage and aliases looks interesting.
- galaktor 10y agoRegarding your mention of the "politically motivated provider", this [1] is relevant: Using Google-translate + some tweaks by myself: "What does political Provider mean? Even if JPBerlin is a political provider, that does not mean that we ourselves are politically active. We give politically and socially active organizations the technical infrastructure they need to enable them to work with modern tools such as groupware systems or mailing lists. They should be able to focus on their content rather than vexed with the technology and its implementation. The JPBerlin itself represents no own political content or opinions. We see ourselves only as a reservoir and implements of the assets from [politically] left, environmental and social areas. And so it is not surprising that we accommodate almost all well-known organizations, foundations, communities and other groups from those circles. Of course we also have non-politically-motivated individuals and organizations as customers. Our customers have no relationships to each other. The same applies to our position in relation to our clients and their views and work. Our only position is to be clearly distinct from the [politically] right edge!!" [1] https://www.jpberlin.de/hilfe/allgemein/was-bedeutet-politischer-provider/ https://www.jpberlin.de/hilfe/allgemein/was-bedeutet-politis...
- mk89 10y agoThanks for clarification. I am just worried about the possible implications. My main concern is the message you send whenever you share this email account online, e.g., on a résumé, with a job application, or with a government agency. If this company has this history, or even worse, it recognizes itself as "kind of left-wing" (and not funded by a left wing party), you never know how people see that. We should have freedom of speech, yet you can't say certain things publicly. Ah, I don't understand the downvotes in my parent comment. It would be great if people could clarify that.
- knabacks 10y agoTheir Branding / Marketing sounds weird but these guys are just providing consulting / hosting / training etc. for gov's and orgs The guys behind jpberlin are = https://www.heinlein-support.de/ https://www.heinlein-support.de/ you can see some of their clientwork here: https://www.heinlein-support.de/consulting/referenzen https://www.heinlein-support.de/consulting/referenzen https://www.heinlein-support.de/referenzen https://www.heinlein-support.de/referenzen hope this helps