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That won't "reclaim" the beaches, you'll just have conflicts between the two groups. The way to solve it is to make the beaches nude-only. Then no anti-religi

That won't "reclaim" the beaches, you'll just have conflicts between the two groups. The way to solve it is to make the beaches nude-only. Then no anti-religious discrimination can be claimed: if they want to swim there, they just have to shed their clothes, and the rule is the same for everyone. Although, as a very fair-skinned person, the main problem I'd have with that is sunburn; I already like to wear a t-shirt at the beach for that reason.

belorn 10y ago
Wouldn't the more obvious choice be to have 3 different beaches, one for no clothes, one for cultural accepted amount of clothes, and one fully clothed. It would follow the current setup of non-nude and nude beaches, and everyone could avoid being confronted with situations that they are uncomfortable with.
- Grishnakh 10y ago
  Why should a bunch of religious nuts be entitled to having their own public beach set aside for them? If they get the prime section of beach, then everyone else is going to complain (rightfully) that the religious minority is getting special privileges. If they get the crappy section of beach (relative to the nude and normal beaches), the religious minority is going to complain that they're being discriminated against. You can't make a bunch of identical beaches. Beaches are not like software; you can't endlessly replicate them. Some are better than others, and they're a limited resource. And finally, why should the country cater to religious extremists in the first place?
  - JoeAltmaier 10y ago
    Confused: currently all the beaches are set aside for the religious nuts - the Frenchmen who can't abide anyone dressing differently.
    - Grishnakh 10y ago
      That's a stupid statement. There's no religion involved there, only culture. And who are you to tell the people of a whole nation that their culture is wrong, and that they should abandon it and adopt someone else's culture?
      - JoeAltmaier 10y ago
        Are they separable in France?

belorn 10y ago

Wouldn't the more obvious choice be to have 3 different beaches, one for no clothes, one for cultural accepted amount of clothes, and one fully clothed. It would follow the current setup of non-nude and nude beaches, and everyone could avoid being confronted with situations that they are uncomfortable with.

Grishnakh 10y ago
Why should a bunch of religious nuts be entitled to having their own public beach set aside for them? If they get the prime section of beach, then everyone else is going to complain (rightfully) that the religious minority is getting special privileges. If they get the crappy section of beach (relative to the nude and normal beaches), the religious minority is going to complain that they're being discriminated against. You can't make a bunch of identical beaches. Beaches are not like software; you can't endlessly replicate them. Some are better than others, and they're a limited resource. And finally, why should the country cater to religious extremists in the first place?
- JoeAltmaier 10y ago
  Confused: currently all the beaches are set aside for the religious nuts - the Frenchmen who can't abide anyone dressing differently.
  - Grishnakh 10y ago
    That's a stupid statement. There's no religion involved there, only culture. And who are you to tell the people of a whole nation that their culture is wrong, and that they should abandon it and adopt someone else's culture?
    - JoeAltmaier 10y ago
      Are they separable in France?