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Saying people in overwhelmingly white suburbs are racist is racist in and of itself. You shouldn't generalize people's behavior based on the color of one's skin
by steveeq1 10y ago
Saying people in overwhelmingly white suburbs are racist is racist in and of itself. You shouldn't generalize people's behavior based on the color of one's skin!
- walrus01 10y agovisit the Issaquah highlands some time....
- steveeq1 10y agoBy that same logic, I could say "visit compton sometime" and you would probably cry racism.
- nsxwolf 10y agoThat sort of reasoning doesn't apply when you're talking about white people. You are talking about the only group that enjoys and benefits from a unique privilege they cannot opt out of, regardless of how they may feel about other races.
- steveeq1 10y agoYou're joking, right?
- nsxwolf 10y agoYou must be suffering from White Fragility [1] [1] http://www.huffingtonpost.com/anna-kegler/the-sugarcoated-language-of-white-fragility_b_10909350.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/anna-kegler/the-sugarcoated-la...
- steveeq1 10y agoI'm hispanic.
- pavel_lishin 10y agoYou must be here to case HN. I'll file a report.
- hnbroseph 10y agothis seems nonsequitur. is this a "it's not racist to abuse white people because white privilege" post?
- walrus01 10y agostuff white people like: white guilt
- nikcheerla 10y agoIs this Poe's Law in action or something?
- dansze 10y agoI prefer to call it mental acrobatics.
- st3v3r 10y agoNot really. Pointing out racist behavior is not racist.
- hnbroseph 10y agowas "racist behavior pointed out"?
- pessimizer 10y agoIn the article under discussion, yes.
- nikcheerla 10y agoHe was talking about the specific post under discussion (which was flagged and is no longer visible).
- smsm42 10y agoAttributing somebody specific stereotypic behavior based solely on color of their skin (implying race) is the very definition of racist. Of course, if you talk about specific individual's behavior pointing it out is not racist. But if you say that individual is doing so because he belongs to a certain race and you would expect the same behavior from any representative of the same race because their race defines their behavior - yes, this would be textbook racism.
- pg_is_a_butt 10y agoNot really. you can't point out racist behavior without yourself acknowledging a separation between races... that is racist. you're all idiots.
- mercutio2 10y agoIn many circles, racism and prejudice are considered different things. When using this framework, one can be prejudiced against white people. But racism is about racial prejudice in the context of broad cultural and power structure imbalances. By this definition, discussing caricatures of white subarbanites is indeed prejudice, but it's unlikely to meet the bar of racism. This is a similar argument to why erasing "Black Lives Matter" and replacing it with "All Lives Matter" is seen as offensive, because it avoids acknowledgement of the relevant present and historical power imbalances.
- int_19h 10y agoThat's a rather recent redefinition of "racism". Recent enough that most general dictionaries do not reflect it. And one does have to wonder about the purpose of that redefinition, given that the old definition was more consistent, while still allowing to express nuances in the usual way, by adding qualifiers (so you could distinguish between "racism" and "systemic racism", for example). So the only thing that the redefinitions seem to achieve is reducing the number of people to whom the social stigma that is (rightly) associated with racist behavior applies - by saying that something is not really racism, you implicitly claim that the stigma is not really applicable in this case.
- pessimizer 10y agoNot in the case of the U.S., where around cities with significant black populations most overwhelmingly white suburbs were explicitly created as sundown towns, with the exclusion of minorities enforced by written agreement through "white homeowners associations." That's the entire origin of HOAs. To say everyone in those suburbs is racist is overwhelmingly broad and unfair. To say that they are full of racism and xenophobia is simply accurate.