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Extreme Commuting (2005)

18 points by fogus 17y ago

MikeCapone 17y ago
I'm doing the exact opposite of this: telecommuting. I can't imagine myself spending 3 hours a day in the car. I'd die of boredom and frustration (not to mention feel guilty about burning all that fuel just so I can work).
- runevault 17y ago
  As someone who DID commute for 3 hours a day at one point driving, I can't recommend against it enough unless you are utterly desperate for the job and can't move. By the end of the 2.5 year stint I had come to simply hate driving, and still do ~3.5 years later. I avoid going on any drives of more than a 10-15 miles unless there's a damned good reason. Ungh.
bluesmoon 17y ago
I know of ladies in India who wake up at 3:30am, cook and pack lunch boxes for their families, then get onto a 3-4 hour train ride to Mumbai for work. They work until 5:30pm, then head to the vegetable market outside Dadar railway station to buy veggies for dinner and the next day's meal. They get onto the next train at Dadar and spend part of their 3-4 hour ride home cleaning the veggies so that they're ready for cooking by the time they get home.
kiba 17y ago
This is an article from 2005.
- icey 17y ago
  It still goes on today: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/22/michael-hanley-gm-autowor_n_471304.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/22/michael-hanley-gm-a...
hnsummary 17y ago
Article Summary: Extreme commuters are the fastest growing group of work commuters in the country, who rarely see their homes in the daylight. People who spend a month of their lives each year commuting at least an hour and a half to work and back each day are considered extreme commuters. This is compared with the US average of 50 minutes and according to the Census Bureau their numbers have jumped 95% since 1990 to 3.4 million workers. Experts say their numbers will continue to grow. In 1990 24% of workers left their home counties on their way to the office, and since then 50% of all new workers are doing the same. Many extreme commuters are forced to drive the long distances because the affordable housing isn’t near the good paying jobs. Interestingly, economists say this “commuting paradox” doesn’t pay off in terms of life satisfaction. A commuter who travels one hour each way would have to make 40% more in pay to be as satisfied with his life if he were a non-commuter. http://hnsummary.com/2010/04/02/extreme-commuting/ http://hnsummary.com/2010/04/02/extreme-commuting/
lutorm 17y ago
It baffles me how people are willing to forego a life just so they can own a big house. Tho two-body problem I can understand, but wasting so much of your life so you can own a house you can't enjoy seems so senseless.
- pavel_lishin 17y ago
  Right, this is why a lot of people's desire to own a house as soon as possible baffled me. It's a lot cheaper to move apartments than it is to move houses. A friend of mine actually moved about 45 minutes away to be closer to his job... and then his job moved, and he's got an hour and a half commute, each way. I'd pay the fee to break the lease in that case. I cannot imagine spending that much time commuting.
- pw0ncakes 17y ago
  How easy do you think it is to find a nice, small house that's affordable? People buy the McMansions because that's what's being built in nice neighborhoods.
- bluesmoon 17y ago
  They aren't foregoing life to own a bigger house. Many of them are foregoing their own lives just so that they can feed, clothe and educate their kids.
- vinhboy 17y ago
  I commute 4 hours a day. I do it because what baffles me is how people can live in a city. I grew up in SF, and moved out ever since college. The thought of living in the city horrifies me. The people, the crowdedness, the lack of open space, etc... I sooner quit my job and take a pay cut than move back to SF. Personally I enjoy my 4 hour commute, 2 of which I spend on the ferry taking a nap or working, and I prefer it over living in the city. Not a lot of people understands or agrees with me, but that's fine.
lmkg 17y ago
Twice when I was growing up, my dad changed jobs to a new one that was an hour and a half away. He sustained that commute exactly as long as it took us to find a new house closer to work. He hated it. It took a huge toll on him, and I didn't get to see him nearly as much. I promised myself I would never have a job that has a commute like that. Today, mine is about 30 minutes, with very little traffic and some nice scenery (to downtown San Diego). I don't feel like I'm losing a significant part of my life, which is the important part to me. Later on, he took a pretty big pay cut to get out of his industry altogether (automotive service) to take a job in-town, with a 5-minute commute, doing something he loved (food). Quality of life is important. He still made enough to support our family, and he was around more and much happier. Being able to bike to your dad's work and have lunch with him on the weekend is more important than a bigger house and some spare spending money.
thirdstation 17y ago
Since a year ago my commute is 4 hours per day. My last job was 100% telecommuting. After three months I started telecommuting two days per week and try to work in an extra day here and there. I love my job and where I work. There's nowhere close to me that offers the same opportunity. I just wish it were closer. Moving is not a easy option because I have a family to consider. I also don't want to live near my job because I don't care for the town - in fact, there is no town, just corporate parks and plazas. I live where I do because it's affordable. I don't own a McMansion. It's not a perfect situation but, you work with what you have. I'm working toward pushing the telecommuting option further. The irony is that I have to be more productive telecommuting than if I warmed a seat for eight hours :-)
rudd 17y ago
I currently commute 4 hours a day (2 hours each way) on the subway and trains. I hate the subway because it's crowded, and on the train I always feel like I'm fighting for a good seat. I wish I didn't have to commute like this, but that's the only choice when your significant other's job is so far away from yours. Between a short commute and a girlfriend, I choose the latter. Plus, the entire time I can be listening to music or podcasts, and on the train I can be catching up on Twitter or stuff in Instapaper. I'd be spending that time doing it anyway. But I can tell you this -- I'm the only 22-year-old on that train.

18 points by fogus 17y ago

I'm doing the exact opposite of this: telecommuting. I can't imagine myself spending 3 hours a day in the car. I'd die of boredom and frustration (not to mention feel guilty about burning all that fuel just so I can work).

runevault 17y ago
As someone who DID commute for 3 hours a day at one point driving, I can't recommend against it enough unless you are utterly desperate for the job and can't move. By the end of the 2.5 year stint I had come to simply hate driving, and still do ~3.5 years later. I avoid going on any drives of more than a 10-15 miles unless there's a damned good reason. Ungh.

bluesmoon 17y ago

I know of ladies in India who wake up at 3:30am, cook and pack lunch boxes for their families, then get onto a 3-4 hour train ride to Mumbai for work. They work until 5:30pm, then head to the vegetable market outside Dadar railway station to buy veggies for dinner and the next day's meal. They get onto the next train at Dadar and spend part of their 3-4 hour ride home cleaning the veggies so that they're ready for cooking by the time they get home.

kiba 17y ago

This is an article from 2005.

icey 17y ago
It still goes on today: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/22/michael-hanley-gm-autowor_n_471304.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/22/michael-hanley-gm-a...

hnsummary 17y ago

Article Summary: Extreme commuters are the fastest growing group of work commuters in the country, who rarely see their homes in the daylight. People who spend a month of their lives each year commuting at least an hour and a half to work and back each day are considered extreme commuters. This is compared with the US average of 50 minutes and according to the Census Bureau their numbers have jumped 95% since 1990 to 3.4 million workers. Experts say their numbers will continue to grow. In 1990 24% of workers left their home counties on their way to the office, and since then 50% of all new workers are doing the same. Many extreme commuters are forced to drive the long distances because the affordable housing isn’t near the good paying jobs. Interestingly, economists say this “commuting paradox” doesn’t pay off in terms of life satisfaction. A commuter who travels one hour each way would have to make 40% more in pay to be as satisfied with his life if he were a non-commuter. http://hnsummary.com/2010/04/02/extreme-commuting/ http://hnsummary.com/2010/04/02/extreme-commuting/

lutorm 17y ago

It baffles me how people are willing to forego a life just so they can own a big house. Tho two-body problem I can understand, but wasting so much of your life so you can own a house you can't enjoy seems so senseless.

pavel_lishin 17y ago
Right, this is why a lot of people's desire to own a house as soon as possible baffled me. It's a lot cheaper to move apartments than it is to move houses. A friend of mine actually moved about 45 minutes away to be closer to his job... and then his job moved, and he's got an hour and a half commute, each way. I'd pay the fee to break the lease in that case. I cannot imagine spending that much time commuting.
pw0ncakes 17y ago
How easy do you think it is to find a nice, small house that's affordable? People buy the McMansions because that's what's being built in nice neighborhoods.
bluesmoon 17y ago
They aren't foregoing life to own a bigger house. Many of them are foregoing their own lives just so that they can feed, clothe and educate their kids.
vinhboy 17y ago
I commute 4 hours a day. I do it because what baffles me is how people can live in a city. I grew up in SF, and moved out ever since college. The thought of living in the city horrifies me. The people, the crowdedness, the lack of open space, etc... I sooner quit my job and take a pay cut than move back to SF. Personally I enjoy my 4 hour commute, 2 of which I spend on the ferry taking a nap or working, and I prefer it over living in the city. Not a lot of people understands or agrees with me, but that's fine.

lmkg 17y ago

Twice when I was growing up, my dad changed jobs to a new one that was an hour and a half away. He sustained that commute exactly as long as it took us to find a new house closer to work. He hated it. It took a huge toll on him, and I didn't get to see him nearly as much. I promised myself I would never have a job that has a commute like that. Today, mine is about 30 minutes, with very little traffic and some nice scenery (to downtown San Diego). I don't feel like I'm losing a significant part of my life, which is the important part to me. Later on, he took a pretty big pay cut to get out of his industry altogether (automotive service) to take a job in-town, with a 5-minute commute, doing something he loved (food). Quality of life is important. He still made enough to support our family, and he was around more and much happier. Being able to bike to your dad's work and have lunch with him on the weekend is more important than a bigger house and some spare spending money.

thirdstation 17y ago

Since a year ago my commute is 4 hours per day. My last job was 100% telecommuting. After three months I started telecommuting two days per week and try to work in an extra day here and there. I love my job and where I work. There's nowhere close to me that offers the same opportunity. I just wish it were closer. Moving is not a easy option because I have a family to consider. I also don't want to live near my job because I don't care for the town - in fact, there is no town, just corporate parks and plazas. I live where I do because it's affordable. I don't own a McMansion. It's not a perfect situation but, you work with what you have. I'm working toward pushing the telecommuting option further. The irony is that I have to be more productive telecommuting than if I warmed a seat for eight hours :-)

rudd 17y ago

I currently commute 4 hours a day (2 hours each way) on the subway and trains. I hate the subway because it's crowded, and on the train I always feel like I'm fighting for a good seat. I wish I didn't have to commute like this, but that's the only choice when your significant other's job is so far away from yours. Between a short commute and a girlfriend, I choose the latter. Plus, the entire time I can be listening to music or podcasts, and on the train I can be catching up on Twitter or stuff in Instapaper. I'd be spending that time doing it anyway. But I can tell you this -- I'm the only 22-year-old on that train.