A lot of them do get this way, and it is a sign not to join. Unfortunately, when enough people wriggle, the founders get their act together and stop behaving t

A lot of them do get this way, and it is a sign not to join. Unfortunately, when enough people wriggle, the founders get their act together and stop behaving that way when they really know they need someone and can't do it alone... by which time, they get someone else that didn't have to fight to get things done right and you missed out because the timing was wrong. So it's a bit of a double edged sword in that respect.